^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Current contributions. See Apr 01 contributions. See Mar 01 contributions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^]x Thu May 31 10:41:30 2001 M18 in Canton (suburb of Boston), Massachusetts =United States= Name: Mike Email: <Spera=at=verizonmail.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: formerly a student, my last day as a high school senior was yesterday - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, 1 ago. Cause of Death: suicide by train; Aged: 17. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: The end of all physical activity for a body. --That first time, how it happened was A good friend of mine that I met in school 6 years prior. He commited suide by train at age 17. If you've never seen anyone run over by a train, it's obviously very messy. I pity his mother, she had to identify that pieces as her ex-son. --What I think my (United States) culture needs to better learn about death is: Respecting it, making it more tragic. The news can report the death of seven people, then 100 people, then move on to the weather without so much as batting an eyelid. Other people's deaths are nothing special unless you knew them. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Brought my surviving group of friends together and strengthened our bonds --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: A single song. The song was The Offspring's "The End Of The Line". --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Well, isn't that obvious? The fact that they're dead. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I I wept --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Writing. Writing fiction as well as poetry and songs. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I tend to cross myself when I walk over the train tracks. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Other: The fact that is was suicide, the age of the victim, and the brutal method he used to kill himself. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 31 09:19:34 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] i just tyed death at yahoo.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: fuck u Recommended Reading-- Writers: suck it - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was i jumped off mt. everest - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Disbelief it could happen i peed on it What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Illicit Drugs your mom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 31 06:06:48 2001 F15 in , =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of idol Public Figure, 2 months ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 40?. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: not existing anymore. Our bodies exist, but our minds don't. Well, some people believe that they do, but I don't. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was sort of surprised. --That first time, how it happened was The old man who lived across the alley died. I did not know him well, because i was young, but I thought he was nice. We went to the wake, but I don't remember feeling any special emototions. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: being really shocked that he was dead and was never going to do anything anymore. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: not to fear it. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: talking about how i felt with people. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i listen to music that reminds me of them. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was shocked that he didn't EXIST anymore. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: learn to understand that it is just a different part of the life cycle. --Religious Affiliation: wicca --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: i don't really concsciously believe in spirits after death, but i sort of instinctively do. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i don't ever want to know that i am going to die. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: i listen to music and think about it with the lights off. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Ability to Forget What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Superstition ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 31 02:00:23 2001 F16 in , == Web: http://www.angelfire.com/grrl/PlasticHalo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Looking for surveys to take at 12am - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Uncle, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: AIDS, leukemia, other things.; Aged: 47. --Details: He was the only relative I liked, I spent hours and hours on end in his room watching cartoons with him. He moved to San Francisco and got more heavily{then he already was} into drugs and I saw him twice in about five years. Then he died. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life. It's when you close your eyes and never wake up. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very young and don't really remember it. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather died of alzheimers when I was 6. I wasn't too devastated, I never really knew him. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: WOndering why a thirteen-year-old girl was killed going to a church function. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: acceptance, being more open about what happened. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Learning to appreciate people while they're alive. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Writing about it. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Knowing I didn't get to say good-bye, wasn't able to show how grateful I was for knowing them. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Umm...I guess, just be kind to who ever's dying. Hold their hand, comfort them if they cry, let them express their fear/relief. --[My Friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: comforted my other friends who had lost this person, as well as taking care of myself. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: people die suddenly when they are young and shouldn't have died. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I laughed because it was better then crying. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say good-bye and show them how much they meant to me. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: have them in my life. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I was able to be open about it. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: That I couldn't cry for a long time even though I was very sad. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I see something on a movie or in a book that reminds me of the "departed." --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... Relationships would be strained, it wouldn't be living. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... to have someone die before their time. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Die. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I got very angry. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Confusion?? --Regarding HOSPICE etc: sadness that there was nothing I could do. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: organized religion did nothing for me. I'm not religious. --Religious Affiliation: My father was Catholic, my mother was an athiest...I'm not sure what I am. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: like nothing. --Regarding MONEY: Doesn't apply to me... --Regarding the FUNERAL: How nice people look when they're in their coffins. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: How unemotional my family was. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Lack of hope. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: ?? --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': it hasn't happened. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I'd just thank them and say good-bye. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My uncle came to me in a dream. We were back in his room when I was a child and he was telling me if I lived my life like how I was I'd end up a burnt out drug-addict like him. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I've wanted to die for so many years that I don't think I have an opinion about the issue anymore. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Drinking lots and lots of alcohol. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? No. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Nope. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It made me rather sad to think about how I didn't knwo how to be sad before. Enhancements: http://www.angelfire.com/grrl/PlasticHalo ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 31 01:59:18 2001 F16 in , == Web: http://www.angelfire.com/grrl/PlasticHalo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Looking for surveys to take at 12am - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Uncle, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: AIDS, leukemia, other things.; Aged: 47. --Details: He was the only relative I liked, I spent hours and hours on end in his room watching cartoons with him. He moved to San Francisco and got more heavily{then he already was} into drugs and I saw him twice in about five years. Then he died. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life. It's when you close your eyes and never wake up. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very young and don't really remember it. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather died of alzheimers when I was 6. I wasn't too devastated, I never really knew him. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: WOndering why a thirteen-year-old girl was killed going to a church function. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: acceptance, being more open about what happened. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Learning to appreciate people while they're alive. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Writing about it. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Knowing I didn't get to say good-bye, wasn't able to show how grateful I was for knowing them. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Umm...I guess, just be kind to who ever's dying. Hold their hand, comfort them if they cry, let them express their fear/relief. --[My Friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: comforted my other friends who had lost this person, as well as taking care of myself. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: people die suddenly when they are young and shouldn't have died. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I laughed because it was better then crying. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say good-bye and show them how much they meant to me. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: have them in my life. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I was able to be open about it. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: That I couldn't cry for a long time even though I was very sad. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I see something on a movie or in a book that reminds me of the "departed." --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... Relationships would be strained, it wouldn't be living. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... to have someone die before their time. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Die. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I got very angry. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Confusion?? --Regarding HOSPICE etc: sadness that there was nothing I could do. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: organized religion did nothing for me. I'm not religious. --Religious Affiliation: My father was Catholic, my mother was an athiest...I'm not sure what I am. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: like nothing. --Regarding MONEY: Doesn't apply to me... --Regarding the FUNERAL: How nice people look when they're in their coffins. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: How unemotional my family was. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Lack of hope. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: ?? --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': it hasn't happened. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I'd just thank them and say good-bye. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My uncle came to me in a dream. We were back in his room when I was a child and he was telling me if I lived my life like how I was I'd end up a burnt out drug-addict like him. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I've wanted to die for so many years that I don't think I have an opinion about the issue anymore. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Drinking lots and lots of alcohol. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? No. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Nope. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It made me rather sad to think about how I didn't knwo how to be sad before. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 29 08:52:20 2001 F25 in Brooksville, Florida =Hernando= Name: Cris Email: <aikidoka35=at=earthlink.net> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: Manager - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 1 ago. Cause of Death: heart failure; Aged: 77. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: feared by most people but is really a peaceful release --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was 25 at my grandmother's house --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...grandparents died --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how upset everyone else was --What I think my (Hernando) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it's not as scary as they think --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that my grandmother finally looked at peace after a year and a half of suffering --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: myself --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: not having them around anymore --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: just that: Be there for them no matter how hard it may seem --The most confusing point of death for me was when: never --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: didn't happen --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be there longer before she passed that day --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be by her side --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I need her advice --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I tried to call her about an achoevement that I had made --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: they only prolong the natural process --Regarding HOSPICE etc: Hospice was very helpful & understanding --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: meant a lot to my family but not much to me --Religious Affiliation: past Catholic --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: correct --Regarding MONEY: a lot of the family was fighting --Regarding the FUNERAL: it felt more humorous than anything to me --The weirdest part of it all to me was: how calm I felt --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : When they start to prepare by saying their goodbyes or getting affairs in order --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: just knowing that she was at peace helped --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': never expereinced personally --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: no issues to resolve --If we were to visit one last conversation... Would like to hear that she is happy whereever she is now --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: plan ahead. any affairs, insurance, ect. --Any thoughts about your own death?: Knowing wouldn't change anything for me. I could accept it. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: visited her house regularly - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System Being there at time of death helped What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Memories --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I stayed strong for my family and was their rock to lean on - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - just another closing process ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 29 03:23:22 2001 F28 in bucuresti, =Romania= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] looking for something on dreams, found death - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Doctor, in course of specialization in Psychiatry - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: I attended Psychooncology courses because I wanted to learn more about patients and family coping in terminal illnesses like cancer and to reach some of the misteries of this strange and, I think, wonderful phenomenon which is death. I would like a personal response and wish it posted. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: myocardic infarct; Aged: 71. --Details: It was a sudden death and nobody was expecting it.She was out working, alone, and somebody found her dead, probably 5 or 10 minutes after she had passed away. My family found out about it only a few ours later. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: something you don't want to meet and you push the idea the farthest you can. But Death reaches us anyway and takes us apart from those we love, from pleasures and everything that's good in life. This is how we see it from this side of the "mountain". We're afraid to climb it to the top, but we've got to get there. And when we get there...well, this is a private experience and nobody can share it with others. So you see, alien fellows, nobody on Earth could describe Death so you can understand it. You can take a Medicine Textbook and read about it but I don't think that's the right answer. See it for yourselves! --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was a child and I only heard of distant relatives' deaths but the adults around me acted strangely and I understood something was not right. Actually I experienced other people's grief and all I know is that it didn't make me feel good and somehow I wanted things to be the way they had been before. --That first time, how it happened was It was a neighbour, killed in the Revolution. He was young. I took part to his funerals. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the pain it caused to my mother and uncle, the way they couldn't stop crying that scared me and the way I kept on finding justification for my own lack of grief. I was frozen and that made me feel guilty. --What I think my (Romania) culture needs to better learn about death is: fighting for life in an appropriate way. My culture is best caracterized by a certain folklore poem called "Miorita". It's about sheperds and sheep, their way of life, crime and death. One of the sheperds is killed by others, he finds out about that before but he doesn't do anything, he accepts it and prepare for death with most serenity. This poem is being studied in school and it always filled me with fury. Why this stupid acceptance? I never understood. I used to believe this kind of attitude towards death is specific to my people. And what did it mean that fury of mine? It was also specific to me! Now I'm being more flexible and I believe it's a good accepting and understanding attitude towards death because I believe something wonderful awaits us there and death is only a "passing through". Is that an acceptance and understanding from me? I'm begining to learn more about me and I know now I'm VERY SCARED of Death. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that I began to pray for the first time in my life after my grandmother's death. And I had a beautiful dream of her after a week of praying. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Books, I think. I tried to approach death in an intellectualized manner. I guess it was easiest for me. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: The guilt. My own guilt of not doing anything to prevent it and my mother's guilt which I experienced somehow. --[My GrandMother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: exceeded my fear of praying. I was raised as an atheist and as I was growing through my adolescence and young adulthood I was becoming aware of the existence of One Divine Force holding together the whole Universe but couldn't get in touch with it. This happend eventually through my praying. --Religious Affiliation: orthodox --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I heard from those who looked after her that my grandmother was visited from her mother and brother but she said they "didn't come to her". Then she fainted and the people around her tried desperately to resuscitate her. She came back to life for a short time and the first thing she said was "Why did you bring me back to suffer?". --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I think guilt remains an important issue and psychotherapy can help me to resolve it. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I had two dreams of my grandmother, one a week after her death and the second one a year and two weeks after. I interpreted these dreams as messages for me. I thought I had a mission to complete. After a while I dropped my initial mission because I found another possible explanation for these dreams. I believe now they are indeed messages for me but they are also a part of me and my unconscious. There's a mission for me but only regarding myself (my Self). --Any thoughts about your own death?: I fantasize sometimes about my own death. I see myself dying in car accidents or of severe illnesses like cancer and AIDS but I remove queekly the fantasy. I'm doing that only to imagine the reactions of significant people in my life. In fact I'm afraid to think seriously of my own death and I prefere to have an intellectual approach. I read about it and I want to study the phenomena linked to it. I really believe it's going to be a passing to something else for me and I'd like to be prepared. My only fear is that I could die too soon and I couldn't be able to face death properly. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness I was very young and Death didn't exist. It was a curiosity for me to observe the bullet hole in his head. It was something awful to look at though. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Denial I couldn't believe a young man could die like that but I thought to myself that was an isolate event and it would never happen again. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I find this questionnaire very useful. I was looking for something else on the web and I found this. I submitted immediately because my interest in what concerns death is high. I'm a doctor and I'm going through my specializing in psychiatry. I find this subject of great interest for a psychiatrist but the possibilities to study it in my country (Romania) are very low. I know I'll find a way to do it. I'm also interested in my spiritual development and death is "part of the job". I know it's a long way to go but I hope I'll cover it till I die. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon May 28 00:44:13 2001 F31 in Tulsa, Ok =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: educator - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 1 yrs ago. Cause of Death: terminal illness; Aged: 73. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of a human's exsistance --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I worried that someone I loved would die soon --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... It was my grandmother's neighbor and friend. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the overwhelming sense of helplessness and disbelief --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: ?? --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I became more aware of how I tend to take my loved ones for granted. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my family --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: when reality set in and I realized I'd never see her again --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I continually watched my grandmother suffer so much, all the while wondering to myself where was the peaceful death scene like I had seen on TV and had read about in books --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: my grandmother would have liked that. She was big on laughter and humor. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell my grandmother "I love you SO much" just one more time --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: see her one more time, the month before she died. I live ten hours away from where she and my grandfather live. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: old friends of my grandmother introduced themselves to me and told me stories that I had never heard before. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: going through a long funeral service. We kept it short and intimate. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I smell another person wearing her perfume or hear one of her favorite songs on TV or the radio. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would have my family back the way I had always known and loved it. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that my daughter, who was two at the time my grandmother died, wouldn't know her. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could sleep for days --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt a profound loss and realized that this is the way it was always going to be. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: gratitude --Regarding HOSPICE etc: a positive one. The home health care nurses were godsends. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: past- Christian/Church of Christ current- none --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: certain in a sense. I feel my grandmother's presence at times. --Regarding MONEY: there were no monetary issues --Regarding the FUNERAL: it was morbid and uncomfortable for me --The weirdest part of it all to me was: seeing the body in the casket --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : dementia ?? --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: first, disbelief, and then utter emptiness when reality sets in. Finally, there is acceptance and healing --If we were to visit one last conversation... I'd like to hear my grandmother's opinions of my parenting skills and any advice she might have --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I wish that I could have a message or visitation sometimes --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I try not to think of this --Any thoughts about your own death?: I'm frightened to the point that I try my best never to imagine my own death --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: My cousins and I have been writing down stories and recipies to help keep my grandmother's memory alive --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I make it a point to refer to my grandmother as often as possible in conversations I have with my daughter --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I feel a closer connections to my two cousins - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Distractions What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I wish that my mother had been there for me more than she was. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat May 26 17:33:44 2001 F42 in , Wisconsin =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: homemaker - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 6 months ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 72. --Details: My mother fought this disease for 3 years prior to her passing and I found that I grieved for her over this entire period. The actual death itself was not as traumatic as the watching her die. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: leaving the human body, which causes the body to cease functioning. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I could not quite understand what it meant --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather passed away. Prior to his death he was hopitalized and I recall waving to him from the parking lot as we were not allowed to see him in his room. I was more concerned with the grief my mother was enduring than acknowleging the loss myself. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my mother needing help in walking back from the gravesite and it was the first time I had ever really seen her cry. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: in the end the most important thing for a person dying is simplicity and kindness. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Less than a week after my mothers passing, I felt her presence as I approached a Hallmark store. It was so strong I spoke to her as it she was with me. Two days later I received a telephone call. The Hallmark store called to tell me I had won a 3 ft tall stuffed animal. I knew immediately this was a gift from my mother. I am grateful that she was able to connect with me so strongly so I knew she was still alive. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my sisters allowing me to cry with them at any time I needed to. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: My husband not understanding the grieving process I was going through. --[My Mother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: was surprised to learn that my long and short term memory was affected for quite some time after this event. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: when I knew it was not possible to tell my loved one goodbye..that I knew they would not be able to hear me say it. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it was the right thing to do. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell my loved one how sorry I was that they had to suffer for so long. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: tell my loved one I loved her. Those were my last words to them and I know they felt my love. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: my loved one took the time to ask about my children. They set aside their pain and suffering and thought of my kids. That was a phenomenal act of love to me. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I smell her favorite flower, hear her favorite song, cook her favorite meal, or remember a funny memory. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... It would not differ at all. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that we are kinder to animals by allowing them to die when they are suffering, yet we make human beings suffer to the point of unbelief before allowing them to die. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could go back to a time before the death occurred when my loved one was still vibrant and living. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt like I had been hit by a truck. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: frustration that there are so many different protocals for treating cancer these days. A trial here, another trial there, conflicting information on statistics and which drug is best. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: incredible respect for the people devoting their life to the dying. --Religious Affiliation: Baptist --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: exactly correct. --Regarding MONEY: there was a lot of stress surrounding the estate to be left to the living children. --Regarding the FUNERAL: The funeral director attended the service and came to the cemetary. He was most supportive and kind and I remember him just being there, a complete stranger sharing this most intimate moment with me and my family. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: a couple days before the death occured my loved one "woke up"....literally acted like they were totally healthy, mentally alert as if they had never been sick at all. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : a sudden "waking up" or alertness. Labored breathing, mental confusion. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I had to cry when I needed to. I had to accept my lack of memory and making mistakes due to that confusion. I learned the value of today, which was the most valuable lesson in life I have ever learned. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': My mother would stare at a corner of the ceiling and ask what those people were doing "up there"....she would mistakenly call one of her own children the name of an old friend. --RE: Near Death Experiences: My infant nephew was a victim of SIDS. The evening before his death he visited me in a dream. He was old enough to communicate to me like an adult and he told me that it was his time to go, that one day we would all understand why it was he had to leave. I awoke to a ringing telephone in which I was told he had passed away. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I have no regrets or unresolved issues. I was very outspoken with both my parents and they knew how much I loved them. In return, I knew how much they loved me and there is nothing that I wish to say or do differently since they died. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would tell them how sorry I was that they had to suffer. I would tell them they are the reason I am such a fine mother today. I would tell them that I am living each day and learning to appreciate the small things. I would tell them their death has allowed me to become a better person . It would not help me to deal with my feelings any differently really to tell them these things. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My parents have visited me while I dream. My father was younger, much more quiet that I remember him and left me knowing he was still in the drivers seat when it came to taking care of his family, although he meant that in a spiritul way. My mother came to me in a dream and showed me her new house. I was not allowed to enter this house but she was also younger, and happy, but not as animated as I remember her. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: A living will is imperative! --Any thoughts about your own death?: I would be in great pain for my family. I would grieve for my children to have to live without a mother. I would be angry that they would be left motherless at a young age. I would know that my life was blessed and I lived the best way I could. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I have incorporated personal material things into my home. This has made me feel a part of the person that passed. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I continue to talk to my parents in my mind daily. I believe they hear me sometimes, but other times I still feel very alone. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? no one - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I allow my siblings the opportunity to vent, scream, cry, be angry and still love them and tell them they are going through a process as we all are. My only wish is they realize I am not as strong as they think I am, and sometimes I feel just as horrible as they do. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - This makes me sad. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? One question I have yet to answer is will I ever experience real joy again. I am certain there are times I will feel happy, but this death is like a cloud hanging over my head. To remember, makes me feel like I will forever be half the person I was before. Maybe a question referring to exactly that....do you feel like you are a different person since this event? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat May 26 08:00:38 2001 F39 in Golden, Colorado =usa= Name: Theresa Koenke Diaz Email: <raynegrrrl=at=qwest.net> Web: http://WWW.users.qwest.net/~raynegrrrl - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ CrossLink from: ] mtdaily.com link to http://www.rockies.net/~spirit/grief/griefA1.html link to this site. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Medical Transcriptionist - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: A Time to Grieve: Meditations for Healing After the Death of A Loved One;The Courage to Grieve; and When Bad Things Happen to Good People. Recommended Reading-- Writers: Carol Staudacher; Judy Tatelbaum; andHarold S. Kushner, respectively. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Brother, 4 yrs ago. Cause of Death: accidental heroin overdose; Aged: 34. --Details: My brother was an occasional user of heroin and, according to his boss, was doing very well at his job and "on the up and up." This helped me to feel better about how he was doing before his death, giving me some answers I might not otherwise have had. He died in July 1997, and his allergies, fatigue from both working and painting a house that day (and inhaling paint fumes), and a bout of sinusitis made the drug suppress his respiratory system a lot more than it might have a healthier person. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: An event which happens to everyone on this planet. It means that the person who dies can no longer eat/walk/talk or do the things that humans do. His/her body is still and becomes cold and after a time will decay, and so it is prepared for burial, cremation, or for parts to be used medically, if the person wished for the latter after his/her death. For the humans left behind, death is usually a time of great emotion, what we call grief, and which can encompass many different emotions. It is common to see people cry tears during grief and to show many other emotions as well. Death is one of the greatest mysteries for us humans. We don't know for sure what happens to the "soul" of a person after they die, that part of them that caused them to be alive other than the blood pumping and bodily parts working. This soul is also a mystery. Some humans think and act as if they know for sure, but no one really knows and there are many, many "beliefs" out there as to what happens to the soul of the person. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was not affected negatively. My whole family had a big dinner and I was told that my great-grandfather died. I was only 4. No one seemed terribly sad even though he was much loved, maybe because he died at an old age, and maybe because, by the time we had the big family dinner, people had already done their crying in private? --That first time, how it happened was It was my great-grandfather. I was 4 years old. I'm not sure how he died, probably of one of the usual maladies of "old age." It was mentioned and it registered with me, and the family got together for a big Italian meal. I don't remember going to a funeral. I loved my great-grandpa, but noone else was upset and I didn't get upset. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: being numb and things feeling surreal. Being "on automatic" for awhile. --What I think my (usa) culture needs to better learn about death is: that those who are grieving need time to heal in whatever way is helpful for them. If that means that they can't work and are sad, then so be it (I was asked to run my entire office only 3 weeks after my brother died, a task I'd never before done). Only after the boss's father died 6 months later did she realize she hadn't been sensitive in asking me to take this on. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that my brother's death made me prioritize my life and see what I wanted and needed more clearly, because life is so precious and can be so short since we never know how long we're going to live. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: the books I read on grief. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the physical symptoms of pain that accompanied the emotional pain, as well as wanting to release my brother from his misery while he was in a coma for a week before he died. Also, the sadness I felt that he and I hadn't kept in better contact as adults. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: To put aside your own agenda and focus on the needs of the dying person. For instance, although my brother was in a coma, I sat with him one afternoon and played music in a walkman for him and talked to him also, letting him know that if he needed to "go", it was OK, that he should go if he had to. Of course, I didn't want him to die, but my feelings were set aside at that time. --[My Brother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: realized that my needs after his death were paramount, not everyone elses'. Also, that I reminded myself of how he would want us to carry on and heal, not wallow endlessly in misery, which is not to be confused with never allowing ourselves to be sad or denying feelings. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I never felt confused. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: when my mom and I laughed at the ICU one day while he was in a coma, it was a great tension reliever. I think my brother would've understood! --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Spend more time with my brother and call him more often. That I would have seen him grow old and become happier in his life. That I might have had the opportunity to say goodbye to him while he was conscious and not in a coma. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Be at my parents for a week to visit my brother every day before he finally died. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... In my fantasy, my brother is happier and more successful than he was in his life, successful in terms of monetary success especially. He is able also to be with his son more often (divorce situation) and I am able to fly him out to visit me even if he doesn't have enough $. He's stopped doing drugs, or at least has cut down a lot and is physically a lot healthier. He gets to see my children and we keep in contact often. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could reverse everything and give it a different ending, meaning that my brother would still be alive. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I allowed myself to feel sad and cry and sleep long hours. I also immediately started of thinking of ways in which I could help myself through the grief process. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: trust that they did everything they could do and thankfulness for the compassion of most of the medical personnel, with one major exception, the details of which I won't go into here. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Nothing whatsoever for me. It meant a great deal to my biological father, and was ironically, totally beside the point and only furthered his emotional distance from the situation, in my opinion. --Religious Affiliation: secular humanist agnostic. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: like a valid viewpoint. Again, it is a huge unknown, but the idea of a linking essence or energy makes more sense to me than the separate, petty little heavens and hells of our own imaginations. --Regarding MONEY: It did not for me directly, as my brother had no estate really to speak of. All of his military benefits have gone to his son, which is as it should be. --Regarding the FUNERAL: How contrived it felt, orchestrated as it was mostly by my father. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: the surrealness of it. How I didn't feel completely with myself. Somewhat detached and numb and exhausted physically and mentally. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : kidney fluids in the bag if they're being catheterized. When kidney fluids become very dark, that's a definitive sign of deterioration. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it was important to acknowledge that what I was feeling at any given moment was perfectly okay. I didn't need to put up any facades or stiff upper lips for anyone. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I had no awareness of this but did see a psychic after his death and that was an illuminating experience. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I have found help from a grief group I went to a couple of years after his death and from a couple of psychics. The unresolved issues can only be resolved by my clear intent and heartfulness. I've "talked" to my brother while holding his picture, sort of having a conversation in private, to say I'm sorry about things I never apologized for. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would hope to hear that death is okay, that they're ok, and that they are watching over me and helping as much as they can (without watching me 24/7, that is!) --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I've had dreams about my brother, but more ones in which he was playing a role, not sending me a message or talking to me directly about his death. Perhaps thisis a result of my subconcious working out issues surrounding my relationship with my brother while he was living. I have wanted to have visitations from him but have never "seen" him. I felt a presence when I was with the psychic, and I received a gift from his widow that was uncannily sentimental and something to which she was "drawn" but about which she didn't understand the significance. The psychic had mentioned this gift to me, so that was very interesting. I also sometimes imagine my brother leaving heart-shaped stones for me along my path in the woods, which I've been collecting, or influencing or communicating to me in ways that I don't understand. I thanked him, for instance, for sending my husband to me. The psychic mentioned that he could now help us (his family) more than he ever could in life. Oh, after the visit to the psychic, I turned on the radio in my car and was changing stations and the song played at his burial, not an often-heard song, Return to Innocence, by Enigma, came on. I had to pull over. I felt that that was a sign from him. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I think a living will is important so that people know about what the dying person would want regarding life support, etc. My brother's widow took him off of the resuscitator, and that was probably one of the hardest things during his dying to endure, not so much because I thought he would live with the resuscitator but because it was so painful watching his body fight for breath in wrenching spasms at first. I wanted to make that stop. But I understood and respected that he wouldn't want to be in a coma as a vegetable ad infinitum. I think that having those wishes on paper would be the best situation, however, as no one in our family, especially my mother, protested the removal of the resuscitator on strictly legal grounds (his wife had the legal say), rather than seeing in print what my brother wanted. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I have absolutely, as mentioned above, thought about death and how it impacts me, and what I've learned from my brother's death and can apply to my life now. If I knew I were going to die soon, I know I would be very upset because I love life so much, but I would also make a big list of all of the things that I wanted to do here on earth before I died and try to accomplish as many things as possible. I'm not afraid of death per se, just don't want to hurry it along. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I have created a little shrine in my private room with his picture and some items which are sentimental and have symbolic significance. I also made a scrapbook about him. Lastly, I collected turtle items for about 2 years after his death (long story, the turtle one). --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? The observations that have remained with me are how precious life is and how my needs are very realistic and important, and not to be so easily overruled, discounted, ignored, or subsumed by others' wishes and needs. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Meeting my husband! And, conversely, getting rid of people who put themselves before my brother's death and my feelings. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: What would have been most helpful is to have had people take me out for meals or bring me food. I went back to where I was living alone, and it seemed most everyone was still "me, me, me" and taking, not giving. I reached out to my mother a lot, not very much to my father or others in my family. Similarly, most of us just seemed to privately grieve, except for my mother and I (and stepdad too). - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I saw it as a venting experience and perhaps an opportunity to share some insights with people also going through the grieving process, although I'm not sure how this questionnaire will be used. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 24 19:10:18 2001 M17 in , north carolina =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 1 yr. and 6 months ago. Cause of Death: diabetes; Aged: 51. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: death is a thing that is there your whole life. I certain day and time is marked for you the second you are born and it's just letting time tick away till your appointment and it doesn't care who it hurts or affects. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I my grandpa at age 8 --That first time, how it happened was my grandpa died of a tumor --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: fear. i am scared of moving on and forgetting her. I am scared of dying alone. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: support to friends and family (but maybe that's just my family) --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I would have probably ended up quiting school if my mom was still alive. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: myself. I write in a journal to my year later self and talk about things i think about now and how i'm scared of time but in a year i have already made it through it and it's not as scary to go another year --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: losing memories. Going on and knowing that your doing significant things without them and that your goign to forget them --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: try to get them to hold on. talk to them and don't leave them even if they can't talk back. --[My Mother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: never, never, never take someone for granted. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i try to make sense of how this is supposed to have a meaning in my life --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: ask if she was proud of me. tell her i love her. touch her arm and lef. kiss her hand. feel her face. listen to her voice. make her make funny faces. hear her laugh. ask her a question and hear her answer. take her place. introduce her to everyone i know.... --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: see her after she died. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: everyday. i think about her all the time and sometimes just want to stop time. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... Well...if i knew about what it was like going without her i would spend every waking moment watching her move and do anything and everything. I would not leave her sight for the rest of my life and nothing else would matter to me. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that my mom had to die why i was still so young and i needed her so badly --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could go back in time to a moment where i had her and just let her hold me. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I got so scared because i realized how long forever was. I knew i was never going to see them again --Regarding the FUNERAL: my dad and what an asshole he is. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: the non reality of it.( at least then) --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : anger and fear played a big part and you need to talk to someone about these things --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: anyway you grieve is the right way. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': before she died she squeezed my hand so tight and later after she died she told me in a dream that, that was how much she loved me. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: just tell her i love her. and expand on it on why and how much and what she means to me. Because we had a argument a week before she died and it was a normal thing to argue but now she's gone! --If we were to visit one last conversation... is she proud of me? --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: i see her sometimes in a dream or sometimes in my hallway but she never talks when she is in reality. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: i know that it is something to talk over with a close friend if there are certain things that you want. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i fear it. My mom's death made me realize that im not immortal. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? Avoiding Everything What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 24 14:59:55 2001 F19 in coquitlam, BC =Canada= Name: michelle Email: <pornogrrl=at=hotmail.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: studying stagecraft - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of BoyFriend, 2 yrs ago. Cause of Death: drug overdose; Aged: 17. --Details: After being clean for almost a month (the longest he'd been clean for since he was 14) Lucas decided to give it one last go. He kept doing more and more because morphine had killed the receptors in his body that got him high, until he slipped into a coma and died. This was 2 weeks before his 18th birthday. We'd been together for 4 years and he was the only boyfriend I'd ever had, and my best friend - so i was pretty devastated. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when you stop living. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I freaked. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... Somebody in my brother's Gr. 1 class died from cancer (I was in Kindergarten) I didn't know the kid, but I didn't know anything about death, I didn't think that children could die. I stayed home for a week and cried. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: everybody leaving me alone to deal by myself. --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: death is not bad. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my friends payed for the drug binge that i had to go on to deal with it. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Crystal meth --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Losing someone who was such a part of my soul and knowing i could never hear his voice or spend time with him ever ever again, and knowing that there were a million things that he would never experience. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Make sure they know how much you love them --[My BoyFriend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: made artwork and poetry dedicated to him and put it up al togethr in my room and on my skin so people could see. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: The stage of disbeleif i went through between the actual death and the funeral when I beleived that there was some kind of mix up or someone was lying and he wasn't actually dead. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: Someone told me a stupid story about something i did when i was drunk once and i just laughed it up cause i needed to. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him how much he meant to me --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: spend tthe time i did with him and make such an impact in his life --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: Lucas' dad was carrying a bass guitr into the funeral and i realized he must have bougth it for lucas' birthday but now lucas was dead and his dad was crying. His dad used to beat him and say "your not my son" and drink and drink and drink but i caught this one one moment when i knew he really cared. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: The funeral. The biggest useless loaad of crap i ever had to sit through --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: When I think of how young he was he'll always be 17. It'll always be 1999 for him there are so many things that i've been through without him, which I never imagined cause i grew up with him, and now i have to keep growing up without him --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... We were gonna get married when i finished high school. I would be married right now at 19. I woulda never been a slut, i woulda also never got to travel to some of the places i have. I'd probly already have a kid. I'd probly be on smack --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... he was too young. That shouldn't be allowed. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could die so i could be with him. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I withdrew from reality for a while --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: disrespect. If they hadn't given him morphine, he'd still be alive --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: shit --Regarding MONEY: The family was so concerned about money. The funeral cost more than his life insurance was worth, his mom was about to lose her job, and he owed a lot of people money because of hiis involvment with drugs. his mom still wanted to pay me back the money he owed me - but i never let her --Regarding the FUNERAL: i hated it. It meant nothing. Some dude with a greasy bad combover talked bullshit about god and there was no one there --The weirdest part of it all to me was: how calm i stayed through the whole thing --RE: Near Death Experiences: My friend died twice from drinking GHB he just gave the 'ol tunnel with the white light at the end story --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: Basically he always made it clear to me and everyone just how much he loved me but i was very quiet and i wish i could have let him know I never pray. but sometimes i pray about this --If we were to visit one last conversation... If we had one more conversation i think it would have been really beautiful to just banter on one more time about music and gossip and all that crap that we always talked about. but id say " i love you" and id say it first --Any thoughts about your own death?: I'm very comfortable with death. I've had an action packed life and I've got my honey waithing for me on the other side. The onlt thing that scares me about dying is that my friends and family will be so devastated. I'd hate for them to be in that state --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I made a candle for lucas and when i think of him i light it and medetate over it --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? a friendship with drugs? - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Denial What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Avoiding Everything - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It actually let me get out some things that i never could tell people, cause everybody i know thinks i'm made of steel. i got to say stuff i never got to say before. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed May 23 21:16:11 2001 F48 in Orlando , FL == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: Elementary teacher - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Uncle, 14 months ago. Cause of Death: heart attack; Aged: 60. --Details: 2 years after by-pass surgery, yet totally unexpected - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: it is an end to life on a 4-dimensional plane. there is a change in status from being here in a corporeal sense to an ethereal sense. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I understood the person I loved was gone from me but I will sense that person again somewhere, some time... --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...grandmother had a heart attack --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: not really affeting me as much as it caused an earth-shattering loss for my dad and I couldn't help him. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: organized religion needs to get a grip --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: My friend Jane died of cancer shortly after we graduated from college. She was released from pain. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Support from family - when the family comes together, grief can be dealt with and life continues --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Knowing I didn't say I love you - that whatever I still needed to communicate, it was too late. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: I told Jane she would be ok; I knew I was lying and she knew I was lying. I wish I could have done better for my friend. I know now that just sitting by her bed would have helped far more than saying those empty words. --[My Uncle's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: Know to live everyday fully, vocalize my thoughts and feelings toward my loved ones because tomorrow might be too late. Love and be loved by family, stay close to cope. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: How can one so alive and so valuable to others simply be gone? That being, with such special ability to love others, have such empathy, care, and compassion, is no longer here with me. Why do the good ones have to go and the evil survive to hurt another day after day? Life isn't fair. Yes the body fails, but the spirit? Where does it go? --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: didn't happen --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell Jane I understand --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: talk with my uncle two days before he died, hear him talking in the background only hours before he died. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: seeing the sheer number of people who responded during the death of my uncle, and hoping (now actively working on) that when I die I will have touched the lives of so many in such a postive way. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: ???? --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I remember Christmas, because he was Santa Claus. Not just in physical appearance, but in daily life, in July, giving toys to kids, etc. My uncle was a true spirit of Christmas and I miss this. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... My uncle surrounded himself with the people he loved - great groups of people, diverse and yet same in that he loved them all. My aunt would still have her husband of 37 years - that marriage they said would never work - and she would not be living alone, having to cope with daily chores. I feel sorry for her. She's had to re-learn so much in the last year. And it's been hard. None of us would have had to learn new lessons. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that my ex-husband can continue to live his despicable life, hurting others, and good people die young. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could reverse time --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I understood life a little more. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: they weren't very effective --Regarding HOSPICE etc: n/a --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: I do not believe organized religion is useful. For my uncle, Church of LDS answered many questions for him. It was easier, I suppose, to allow that church to take over during that difficult time. I did feel better after the service. And I didn't expect that. --Religious Affiliation: Baptist - hellfire and brimstone --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: just right --Regarding MONEY: Social Security pays a very small death benefit, it is almost laughable. --Regarding the FUNERAL: A celebration of life, his life. And being glad we had known him. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: letting go, knowing it's over and trying to believe it's not real. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : ?????? --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: As badly as I hate to admit, the church service did provide a measure of relief. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': He was afraid of ghosts, and believed completely in the phenomena. I don't know if he experienced any of this. I hope he did. --RE: Near Death Experiences: I have not and hope it will at some point. Discussing this idea one night in the back seat of the car on a long trip, her husband turned from the front seat, to tell that he had had such an exerience. He could see his former wife standing beside his body while he suffered a heart attack. He saw the EMT's coming into the room and he stood across the room watching, as if he were watching tv. He reported not being afraid to die because he now understood it would be a progression to another plane, not the final end of his "soul" for no better choice of words. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: We visited a medium at Casadega Florida. An incredible day when we were told many things about his life, death, etc. that were unknown to us and yet other people proved it to be true. There were things that he wanted found and they were found. (Unfortunately, no unclaimed Lottery tickets!) He would have thought this funny! --If we were to visit one last conversation... I haven't but my aunt did. See above. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My aunt told us one morning that she had had a visitor the night before. She said my uncle had just walked in the bedroom door, and they had talked all night and he helped her understand the things she would have to take care of in the course of daily life. She asked him if he would come again, and he didn't answer. That was the only question that night he didn't answer. This was very vivid for her. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: Organ donation, a burial plot, etc. is not necessary, spread my ashed to the wind.... --Any thoughts about your own death?: I really didn't feel that my life was so terrific before, but after experiencing this time in my life, I would like to think that my life has touched others and I would be remembered as he was. Death doesn't seem to offer much fear as before, I just want my life to have meant something to others. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Crying - especially during holidays and with other family members, eventually coming to the point of laughter when someone starts telling some of those private little stories of his life. That helps. Remembering him. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Remember how he never met a stranger. Speak to people, you never know who will be your next friend. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Not people - but situations. My aunt and uncle had always rented a house, but just days before he died, had told her she could look for another house, perhaps one to buy. About 2 months after his death, she found a listing in the newspaper for a house, called the owner and left a message. Her message was the ONLY one he responded to, showed her the house and gave her the key to come back and look at later with her sons, (would you do that?) The house was bought lock, stock, and barrel in one week, even the closing. The address was 1400 Snowden, my uncle's birthday was the 14th and his password on the computer, etc. always contained the word "snow". Altogether, it was almost ethereal, if a house purchase could be classified as such. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Helping Other People cope --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: Just being there to hold another person and let them cry is so important. There need not be words. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I believe putting into words these feelings has helped. I didn't know the questions - you did. Maybe (here's the teacher in me...) a workbook/journal with questions like these would help others. I wish I had answered these a year ago. I might have healed faster. Thanks ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed May 23 17:04:33 2001 F18 in , MI =USA= Name: jackie Email: <jackie_72=at=hotmail.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] just found it when looking at different tests - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 4 ago. Cause of Death: blood clots in the lungs; Aged: 41. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: For us humans, Death is something that is hard to deal with. It's like losing a best friend and you never fully recover from it. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I I cried and was very upset --That first time, how it happened was How it happened my dad died due to a blood clot in his lungs --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: Everyone being so sad and couldn't believe it happened --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: It hard to deal with and it's going to happen to all of us sooner or later --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my family and relatives were always there throughout the whole thing --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: support from family, relatives, and friends --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Realizing i would never be able to see or hear them again. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: It makes the person feel better and it makes you feel better knowing you cared and were there with that person. --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: View life as such a great thing than i ever did before. It makes you realize how important life is and you only have one life to live, so live it to its fullest. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: why they can't be saved --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it was just part of it. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: get closer to my dad0 --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be with my family and friends during it all. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: all the family and friends were there throughout it all. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: being responsible for it. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: remember all the memories we've shared. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... i would have a dad first of all, and i think my family would be more happy and do more things together. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that my dad had to die. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could see my dad again. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I realized how important your family reallyy is to you. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: They were there for us through thick and thin. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: christian --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: the same --Regarding MONEY: people donated money --Regarding the FUNERAL: how many people out there trully cared about my family and me --The weirdest part of it all to me was: talking about the death --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : nothing really, death can be sudden and unexpected like it was for me. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: talk to friends and family about it. --If we were to visit one last conversation... how much we loved each other. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: always being with my family. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? It's drawn me closer to my family and relatives. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities People always being there What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Disbelief it could happen It was my dad - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - it helped me contemplate my situation. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 22 12:39:19 2001 F15 in Farmingotn, Missouri =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: Student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: I plan on majoring in psychology in colloge - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 75. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the lose of a loss one and realization that you'll never se them again --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I cried and cried and even stil cry if i think about it --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... It was My grandpa, he died of cancer --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my grandma kissing him in his casket and me holding her as we both cried --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it happens to everyone --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: i realized that not everyone lives for ever, not even family --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: music, and myself --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: accepting the fact that i lost my grandpa --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: treat them normal, they dont want your pitty --[My GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: grew up and matured --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i realized he wasn't there anymore and i couldn't just go to his house and i missed out on all the times to tell him i loved him --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: death is no laughing matter --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him i love him more --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: see him alot when i was little, even though i was a brat --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: i seen him in the casket. it was the first funeral i was at --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: who was gonna get the flowers --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i think abotu dieig and i think i might not make heaven --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would be able to see my grandpa happy and laughing at christmas --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... how could god do this to me!!>?? --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could go to sleep and wake up to see my grandpa again --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I cried and cried. I didn't understand how god could do this to me --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: every kind of personin the world, appriciate them all --Regarding HOSPICE etc: i never went to the hospital except the week or two before he died --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: time to ask god why --Religious Affiliation: go t ochurch every sunday and wednesday --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: sad. i feel i wish i could get in touch with my papa and ask him about whereever he is --Regarding MONEY: i didn't get anythign that i know of --Regarding the FUNERAL: there were alot of friends that were supportive and loveing --The weirdest part of it all to me was: accepting the loss --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : deteriation of the person, the loss of ability to move around or caring in the person --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it took awhile, and i'm still not fully over it --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': i knew he was gonna die soon, i just didn't want to admit it --RE: Near Death Experiences: nope --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: i feel he knows i loved him, i miss him i want him to know i'm sorry for acting up when i was little --If we were to visit one last conversation... nope --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: nope --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: you should live your life to the fullest --Any thoughts about your own death?: if i knew i was gonna die soon, id definetly make sure i was in good terms with god and repent of everything --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: i talked to him for awhile by myself --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? nope --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? nope - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying passage of time too What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? The Funeral --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: i stayed by myself - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - yeah, i need to go pepent because we never know when we're gone ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon May 21 15:05:25 2001 F47 in Montreal, Quebec =Canada= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ CrossLink from: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Final Gifts, Understanding the Special Awareness, needs and communications of the dying. Recommended Reading-- Writers: Maggie Callanan and Patricia Kelley - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 16 months ago. Cause of Death: still awaiting autopsy report; Aged: 78. --Details: There was a lot of anger after his death because although he went through successful heart bypass surgery, it was the complications after that operation (which I blame the hospital for) that killed him. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when the physical body of a human being ceases to function completely. With time the body decomposes and returns to earth. What happens to the soul, spirit or thoughts of that person nobody knows for sure. The same process more or less happens to animals, plants, continents, and the elements. We all come from somewhere and return to its source eventually. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I I didn't know what to expect. It would have helped if someone would have told me what would happen (what the customs were and what they meant). Instead I just followed others and observed without understanding why things were done. --That first time, how it happened was It was the death of an uncle and although I knew him well, we weren't close so the impact of his death was minimal, not at all like the death of my own mom and dad. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: that death is always a surprise. Although I knew it was coming and if it didn't happen this time, it would happen eventually, still I prefered to pretend that we had more time together. Call it denial, call it wishful thinking, but I always thought the end was further away than it was. --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: not to shy away from talking about the dead or about what happens at the time of death. It is the most natural of things. If somebody feels the need to talk about it, just listen to them. It will help them enormously. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: It brought my brothers and myself closer since both our parents are dead now. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: It helped enormously that people paid their respects and attended the funeral. When somebody important to you dies, you'd like to know that they meant something to other people also. That they mattered and contributed to the world in their own way. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Feeling like much of the decisions and responsibilities rested on my shoulders, whether it was during the illness of my parents or afterwards for funeral arrangements. I felt like others could have helped. I was already so exhausted from dealing with the sickness prior to my parents' deaths. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Listen to them carefully. Don't assume that they are hallucinating or talking nonsense due to the medication. The dying ask for things that we can do for them to help them leave this earth more easily or be more at peace. --[My Parents's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: I tried to do it all. I tried to work full time and care for sick parents. Don't even try. Take a leave of absence from work. This is precious time that you will never have again with them. Dedicate and share one of the most important times of your life to being there for your parents, like they were there for you when you were a baby. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: First, I thought the disease would go on forever, but it doesn't, people die and its generally when you've almost completely given up and are at your worst, so keep your cool so you can be proud of your strength and courage afterwards. Second, the hospital staff must have known when death was near for both my parents but they failed to tell us and we weren't there for our parents when they passed away. That still bugs me that they died alone. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Be at my parents bedside when they died. Written down more of the stories they told me about their childhoods and their lives in general. Memories drift off as I get older. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Two months after my mom died, I learned that I was pregnant. This kept me busy and my mind off the loss of my mom. I am sorry that my son never got to meet his grandma, but I am grateful that I had him to comfort me. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I did little things for my sick parents when they were too ill to do it for themselves and all of those little things made me feel good that I could return some of the kindness that they had given me during my life. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Thirteen years after my mom died, I still miss her and miss hearing her voice, her laugh, hearing her opinions on things, going out together, and having her care for me. Nobody did it like she did. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... You can't rewrite history. I probably wouldn't have acted any other way. I am who I am. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... That people who had such hard lives, had to have such difficult deaths. You'd think that if you suffered and worked hard your entire life that God would at least reward you with a quick and painless death. Think again. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Cross over myself. Not in a morbid way, its just that I don't get what all the fuss is about on this side. I'm looking forward to seeing what's on the other side. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I I realized that life has its own agenda and schedule and things happen when they want to, not when I want them to. The sooner one accepts that life is temporary here on earth and we have no control the better off we are. We do the best we can with the time we have, and that's okay. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Disappointment and anger. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: less than impressive. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Again, disappointment. --Religious Affiliation: Catholic. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: I am just beginning to understand that there is a common link of Spirits. Many roads lead to the same destination. I believe the same is true of religions. We are all one, but we don't get it here on earth. --Regarding MONEY: It wasn't a problem. Mom and dad had prepared and put money aside for their burial. Money was never a problem among the children. We would never let something like that interfere with our family unity. We would rather burn the stuff. --Regarding the FUNERAL: The professionals were very helpful, no complaints there. But it was sad that there were few people at my father's funeral. But all of his contemporaries are old and sick themselves and couldn't or wouldn't attend. It is always sad to see a generation die out. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: Picking out clothes to bury my mom in. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Blueish tint to the skin (lack of oxygen) within the last 24 hours of life. In case of multiple organ failure, swelling of the body, means only a dozen hours or less before death occurs. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: Grief is not so bad. We grieve because the dead mattered to us so much. If you don't grieve, it's because that person didn't mean a lot to you. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': Unfortunately, none. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I have made my peace pretty much with my parents. They did the best they could, I don't blame them for anything. Being a parent and far from perfect myself, I understand them better. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would just like to know that both of them are okay. That they are somewhere, comfortable and in good company and that I will join them someday. It would help if we could know for sure that we will all be with each other again. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: In the month's that followed mother's death I had three dreams about her. The first two were simply dreams where the general message was that she was still around me. The third and final one was a message where she told me she was leaving now, going back to the village where her family came from, that she was retiring. That was so cool. I was happy that she was going somewhere to be with her family and to rest. She earned it. It helped me accept her death. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: It is necessary to put things down in writing so that our wishes will be carried out when we can no longer speak for ourselves. People should be able to ask for a painless way to die when death is close and suffering unbearable. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I would be sad to leave my son behind and would do everything to help him understand that I do not fear death myself and am happy to go on to the next world or experience. I try to speak to him about that now. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Taking care of burial plot. Keeping it neat and planting flowers. It's the last thing that I can do for my parents. I am happy to do it. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I simply feel my own mortality much more now that both my parents are gone. It's not a bad thing. I think more about what matters to me and what I want to do before I die. Don't want to postpone them any longer. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Other: The way that my own parents dealth with it gave me the cue to follow. They were sad but did not fall apart. They cried and expressed their sadness, but there was no emotional outbursts and death was treated as if it was just a normal part of life and that helped me to accept that it was just that. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Other: People's reluctance to speak about the departed. I always found it comforting personally. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I didn't know anybody to reach out to for help and nobody came to me. I suppose there should be some support that automatically comes within reach at a time like that. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I know how I feel about death. It is a subject that I think about often. It doesn't scare me and the questionnaire didn't make me think about anything I hadn't already thought about. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat May 19 23:38:25 2001 F24 in Monrovia, CA =USA= Name: Julia Email: <juliegrrl76=at=yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] yahoo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Ex-, 6 months ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 24. --Details: he became schizophrenic at age 21 and finally hung himself as a result. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: inevitable. When you die, you end. You no longer exist except in the memories of your friends and family. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I cracked jokes. --That first time, how it happened was my grandfather who I saw weekly died when i was 6 --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the overwhelming sadness knowing that I am the only person who ever truly knew him as an adult and saw his feelings --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it can be a good thing for the person who dies. sometimes life isn't worth living. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: it made me appreciate the time I had with Brian. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my memories of Brian. I didn't have much support when he died. But that lack of support was a lot of what we had in common in life so it was strangely fitting and somewhat supportive. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: knowing how much pain he must have been in to have finally killed himself. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: laughter is how i deal with life and death. Most of my friends could appreciate that about me --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: see him and spend time with him before he died. We hadn't seen each other in many years, only spoke on the phone every week. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: i saw that his unmarked grave was sunk in lower than the others. It was so sad to me. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: his family. they will cherish the memories of him as a child i'm sure. But they really can't mourn for him. they never knew him as an adult. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i'm not over it --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... now i don't have him anymore...and lots of other selfish thoughts --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could be dead too --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: exmormon, currently atheist --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: somewhat alien. I don't feel like many ppl can understand how i feel. That may be part of the whole grief thing though --If we were to visit one last conversation... I dream of you my love, long ago the way you tweaked my nose and said my name how you understood why I couldn't go home you couldn't go home either i dream of us our love vibrant painful enduring how we hurt each other hurt ourselves how we comforted each other the hurt between us was so much less than the pain around us the pain we were hiding from the dreams wont stop just like when we were young i'd dream of you until you came to me i dream of you now i see your eyes, your smile i feel the warmth of your hand on my back hear you tell me you love me i reach out and run my hand through your hair i open my eyes my hand full of grass feeling the radiance of the sun on my back as i lie on your sunken unmarked grave longing for one more day with you --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I smell my ex's cologne often when I least expect it. I'm certain it is more the power of my mind but it still feels comforting like it could be him. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I go to the park where we used to play basketball and sit alone on the court around 7 in the morning on Sundays, no one there that early on a sunday. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Abandonment ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed May 16 16:34:28 2001 F19 in Paso Robles, California =San Luis Obispo= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Other: ] I stumbled upon this site by accident. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: a rodeo accident; Aged: 16. --Details: She was bucked off her horse and kicked in the head while rodeoing. Her family kept her on life support several days untill it was hopeless. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: our spirit leaving our body to find another vessel --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was saddened and came to the realization everything dies, life is unfair and i, too, am mortal --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... a friend from school shot and killed himself because he thought it was hopeless. The whole school was devastated. I was 13 and knew him pretty well. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: Wondering how life could be so unfair to take the life of a young girl with so much promise, thereby affecting the lives of everyone that knew and loved her. --What I think my (San Luis Obispo) culture needs to better learn about death is: It is not glorifying to cause the deaths of others. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: It has taught me that life truly is a precious thing that shouldn't be wasted. There isn,t enough time to sit idly by while life passes you by. Taking anything for granted is not living life to the fullest, but contentment is essential. Dreaming is okay, But wanting for that which is imppossible is a waste of time. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: My good freinds who could be counted upon for support when needed, or able to provide a quiet comfort. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Coming to the realization they were gone, I'll never have another chanceto tell them how I feel. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I tried to figure out why someone would take their own life. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: Remembering the good times was to strong an impulse to ignore. A celebration of the life of the deceased is as important as anything. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: spend more quality time with those I knew that are now gone. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Attend the funerals I was able to. Closure played a big part in my acceptance --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Sometimes I hear the song that was sung by a friend at a funeral service and tears come to my eyes. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... They're gone so soon, I dindn't have enough time with them. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Remember more of the good times or just have a good cry. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Life is taking a chance. Medicine can't do everything, or sometimes anything. --Religious Affiliation: none --Regarding the FUNERAL: The overwhelming sadness in the air. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I put aside all negative issues. threr is no need to dwell on anything but positive things for me. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would want to have a happy light conversation to ensure at least one good time to look back on. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I prefer not to think about it. I am well aware of my mortality and that is enough for me right now. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Several close friends and myself get together and tell funny or intresting stories of the person we lost. This leaves us with the feeling they haven't left us at all. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I am now good friends with the former gilfriend of someone I know that commited suicide. We are able to talk to each other as we could'nt with his family. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? The Funeral I grieve quickly, usually quietly. I don't dwell on it, I find that doesn't help. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I know a great counsellor who helped me through my grief. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I think the questions were insightful. They made me rethink some of my view on death, but also caused some pleasant memories long forgotten to arise. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 15 18:16:44 2001 F24 in CLEVER, MISSOURI =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: HOMEMAKER - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Brother, 6 yrs ago. Cause of Death: CAR ACCIDENT; Aged: 16YRS. --Details: HE WAS 1OF2 CHILDREN AND ONLY 17MO. YOUNGER THAN ME. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: A GREAT LOSS. IT WILL EITHER BRING YOUR FAMILY TOGETHER OR RIP THEM APART. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I CRIED OFCOURSE MY HEART WAS BROKEN --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...MY GRANDMOTHER DIED WHEN I WAS ABOUT 8 OF KIDNEY FAILER. IT WAS HARD BUT I THINK IN SOME SAD WAY IT PREPARED ME FOR MY BROTHER'S DEATH WHEN I WAS 18. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: PAIN AND GUILT, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW IS THAT TIME DULLS THE PAIN. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: THE FAMILY DOSEN'T DESERVE TO BE AVOIDED BECAUSE THEY LOST A FAMILY MEMBER. THEY UNDERSTAND YOU DON'T ALWAYS NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE ONE THEY LOST. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: THE CLOSENESS TO MY CHILDREN. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: THE LOSS OF MY BEST FRIEND AND MY ONLY SIBLING. --[My Brother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: LEARNED TO VALUE EVERY MEMORY OF OUR CHILDHOODS. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: THE FIRST 3 YRS. I WAS SEVERLY DEPPRESED - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time TIME IS THE ONLY THING THAT SEEMES TO MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Guilt WEATHER OR NOT YOU ARE DIRECTLY INVOLVED OR NOT YOU STILL SEEM TO CARRY THE GUILT. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun May 13 20:20:38 2001 M31 in Nylstroom, =South Africa= Name: Wimpi Burger Email: <wimpi=at=vangani.co.za> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: Pastor, studying Psychology - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, 0 yrs ago. Cause of Death: illness; Aged: 25. --Details: I was the pastor that had to comfort the family and friends that stayed at his bed until his death 3 days later. His wife is pregnant with their first child. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: what happens to us when we leave our bodily and earthly existance for and eternal spritual existance --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was afraid of the unknown. --That first time, how it happened was As a child I was at the funeral of a step-grandmother --What I think my (South Africa) culture needs to better learn about death is: The comfort God provides for the mourning. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: the unusual hope that Christian mourners shows most of the time. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: The Bible and religious books on death. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the thought of the final goodby and not being able to inetract anymore. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: the physical contact e.g. holding the persons hand. --[My Friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: was able to stay calm and not get to emosional, for the sake of his pregnant wife. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I don't understand that feeling. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be a better friend that is interested what he did or a better listener. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: say goodby. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I feel emosional or tired at the time. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I miss the time we where together and long for that moments, but I know we will one day be praising God together in heaven. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... is the first thought that comes to mind, but we must all die at some time and trust God with that time. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could see him holding his baby. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I wanted to prepare myself for my death. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Gratitude for their efforts and simpathy --Regarding HOSPICE etc: Positive, releaving pain. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: people creating safe and comforting atmosphere to die. --Religious Affiliation: Pastor of a church --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: a bit to wide. I'd like to stick to what God teach us in the Bible about the subject. --Regarding MONEY: the funeral costs and his debts was a difficult thing for my friends widiow to cope with. --Regarding the FUNERAL: how many people wanted to pay respect and I think in the future it will mean a lot for the widow. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : to listen when the medical staff tell you it is time to say goodby. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it is important to know it and comforting to know that your thoughts are normal. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I had no such experience --RE: Near Death Experiences: I often hear that someone knows or had a feeling that they would die short before their death. At become clear in certain preparations they made. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My wife dream about her grandfather that died when she was young everytime something upset her very much or someone cose to her dies. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: It can get out of hand. I think if people are able to talk to each other it would make things easier afterwards. --Any thoughts about your own death?: Yes it causes me to about it and I think I am ready for it. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Reading fimiliar Scriptures. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Cherish the good memories - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Abandonment --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I think is good to visit or call a friend that griefs a few weeks after the funeral and on difficult times of the year, e.g. the first Christmas, birthday and day of death. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It is good to talk about it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 10 15:25:12 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Uncle, 30+ ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my uncle was hit by a falling tree and was instantly killed. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Lack of Awareness ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 10 09:10:56 2001 F39 in Brandon, Manitoba =Canada= Name: Jacki Email: <radio01=at=mb.sympatico.ca> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: copywriter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: I am the youngest child of 6, have 2 grown children of my own and miss my mom more than anything. this has been the hardest time of my life. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 1 month ago. Cause of Death: heart failure; Aged: 68. --Details: As I said earlier, she wasn't well for sometime and i distinctly recall her telling me she did not, not matter what want to die. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: like the end of a portion of my own life, to me at this stage it seems like a closed chapter. Death to me was like a personal attack on my emotions. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was and still am an emotional disaster. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my mother had been sick for sometime, however, being the optomist I am I never for a moment thought I would lose her. It is still so new I can hardly believe it has happened. Even to the last hours I was still questioning my siblings, "is mom going to die"? --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: seeing my mom's body in a coffin --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: let people grieve on their own terms. Do not tell them they are dwelling on it, all need to recover in their own time. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: becoming closer to a sibling --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my friends --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the realization I would never see my mother again. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: talk to them, even though they may seem to be a state of non comprehension, who knows, perhaps they do hear. --[My Mother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: grieve --The most confusing point of death for me was when: awakening from a morphine induced coma and appearing well and "with it" --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it was good to laugh. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: visit my mom more often and forgive her for being angry due to being in constant pain,. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: talk with a chaplin --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: my dad called us to say goodbye following death, I felt relieved...still very saddened but relieved. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the funeral --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i read sympathy cards sent, or read a gardening journal my mother kept. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would be a best friend to the person who meant more to me than life itself. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... the fact she didn't want to die, was afriad. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could cry out loud --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I still find it a grim reality --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: thankfulness. The medical staff was compassionate, caring and professional. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: the hospital chaplan --Religious Affiliation: united --Regarding MONEY: my dad has requested we all chip in for the funeral, I know for a fact my mom had enough money, however he says not, I am angry. --Regarding the FUNERAL: it was a morbid, pain causing event --The weirdest part of it all to me was: the state of the body after death --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : lowered pulse, more labored breathing --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: i am still grieving --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': i have no knowledge of this --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: the guilt issues remains. I did not spend a lot of time with my mom the past 6 months of her life. The reason for me being it was too hard to listen to her complain and be miserable --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would hope to tell my mother how very greatful i was of her kindness and attention the past 39 years, i would tell her that i sincerely feel she did the best job raising 6 kids as she possibly could with the resources she had. I would tell her that I feel sorry of the life t\she had to lead as a child and tell her how lucky I felt she made a better life for us. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: i dreamed only recently (two days ago) that i spoke with my mother on the phone to arrange a meal for Father's DAy, she told me, only bring potato salad, he will be upset if yo bring too much. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: funeral arrangements should be made in advance, having not done this preparation leaves the door open to hurt feelings, what I mean is with siblings away from town, one will coment on how they didn't have any say. And why did we do this or why did we do that, etc. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I am truly saddened at the prospect of dying. Watching my mother die i honestly can say yes i am afriad. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: keeping a journal --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? more like a rekindling of an old relationship - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Mid-Life How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Books & Films What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Guilt --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: for my husband to accompany me to the viewing. It seemed he couldn't deal with the grief himself and wanted nothing to do with my grief. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I think all experience such as this will help heal the terrible pain i feel and perhaps I can draw better conclusion as to why i feel like I do ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed May 9 14:19:27 2001 F48 in Toronto, Ont. =Canada= Name: Linda Email: <lindaflicker=at=netscape.net> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: Student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: no - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 4 yrs ago. Cause of Death: bowel cancer; Aged: 66. --Details: was my natural father, not my "Dad". Not a very nice man...his spouse would not go to the hospital.. he had noone so, I ended up his caregiver, when I did not want to be. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of being of the physical entity known as "man" --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was about 10 or so, and felt bad for mom, but not for me. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my great grandfather died. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the look of him dead...eyes open..mouth wide open...like he was screaming out in agony --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is preventable and should never be wished for. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: if a person is in horrible pain, and suffering immensely, they should be permitted to end life. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my spouse and the unerring support provided. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: trying to understand how to grieve for someone I did not like. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: have never been in the room when a person died. --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: was torn between emotional/moral/ethical sense of doing the right thing, and wanting to just walk away. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: you know they are dying, yet watch them fight for that last breath, in defiance. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: love and hate, laughter and tears..are all closely related. Some use humour as a defense mechanism, and there is just something about a situation in which laughter is completely inappropriate that makes it more appealing. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: have really told him how I felt --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: get him into palliative care quickly, so he would have proper nursing care...as opposed to wife asking him if he wanted a cigarette. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: people looking at a memory board, pictures and reminiscing to bring their grief to the fore. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: that the body itself was not there --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i see suffering. My mother is dying now, and i cry just to look at her and what she is becoming. The vitality of one so treasured by me, now lost. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would not want to envision a revival of things best left as they are. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that he gets to think he is absolved because he says so. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could scream. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I had a good cry. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: it was terminal from the beginning. The medical community tried to keep him alive, he wanted to die. Noone listens. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: none involved. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: anglican --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: foreign. Dead is dead. --Regarding MONEY: He died and with very little, but it still took a year or more to sort out his estate. --Regarding the FUNERAL: His wife sat at the back and would not come up and sit with the family. Of course, she hated him, and wanted pity from his "buddies". None of that came to her. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: Watching him wake suddenly...and tell me he was in imminent danger and for me to let go of his hand...or I would be in danger too. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : fever, heartrate, vomiting, demand for more for pain. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: always remember you have to keep going...just because they die, does not mean you did too..always keep moving forward. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I have no personal knowledge of this, except for the odd story told in a hearsay fashion. However, we are a suggestible people, and if we want to visit with the dead, then we will. We just need to remember that the person is just that..dead, and not able to tell the living they are anything other than wonderful. A person who has a deceased spouse telling them they were a rotten person, should get help right away. --RE: Near Death Experiences: this has been discussed at length. I believe we are made of matter, and as such have electrical circuitry through our bodies to send and receive commands from the brain. I just think that when we are dying, we start to shut down, our systems cease one at a time, and that is the "bright light" etc. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I see a counsellor to assist me with the inability to grieve for someone I disliked. I talk about it with friends and spouse as well. --If we were to visit one last conversation... No. If I did I would have been to group therapy quickly. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: has never happened to me. Happened to my sister though. It stopped I think once she "put away" her anger toward her dad. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: Whatever they want (legal) they should have. I think we are sily to agree to euthanasia for our pets, and not loved ones. I agree with assisted suicide, and the withdrawal of equipment to keep someone physically alive. I had no say in the start of my life, I would like a say in the ending of it. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I will die when I am supposed to. I will likely die of a genetic anomaly. I just cannot decide where to go when I am to be buried. But when that occurs, I will no longer care. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: The first time I go golfing every year I ask for intervention...but in good humour, not seriously. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Nothing comes to mind in particular. I did decide to revamp my career, and at 48 it was a major decision. I am glad now that I did so, and I think in some small way his death promted it. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? No. I did not want to be there in the first place. I certainly was not going to find friends there. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? -none- i was too young to comprehend the totality of it all. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- i have never felt hindered in dealing with death --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I have spoken to several people about the death of a loved one..or a pet. I just listened mostly, and let them cry. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I did not feel expunged of my emotional turmoil that sometimes comes to the fore. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? Was your first emotion anger, relief, guilt etc. and why? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 8 20:18:04 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Hospice ] Recommended Reading-- Writers: Ram Dass - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...when my 36 yr old sister was diagnosed with breast cancer, I was 39. She died two years later after a long terrible three month decline. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Mid-Life How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? People's Stories, etc. My beliefs in reincarnation and understanding about the space between lives. I don't think I was hindered. Grief proceeded pretty much as it should. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 8 14:19:46 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: who dies, spinning straw into gold, and other books about death and dying (same author) or about illness (metaphor as illness) Recommended Reading-- Writers: stephen levine and other writers(susan sontag:metaphor as illness - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, yrs1/2 ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 71. --Details: he chose to struggle with experimental programs:I think his struggle allowed his family eventually to let him go, given the suffering and debilitation; and he knew when he could tell them it was time. He got them ready for what they could not have faced if he had not chosen to struggle. In the end, he made it easier for them by choosing to suffer until he knew he couldn't endure any more and he was sure neither could they.I didn't at all see him struggling to avoid death. I saw him trying to get his family to accept,even welcome, his death. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: different things to different people. For some, it is a loss. For others, the end of life. For others, nothingness. For some, movement to another dimension. For some, a natural part of the life/death cycle. Consequently, people experience it differently--- emotionally. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was in awe of its suddenness and permenance --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...neighbor,an accident where a teenage son of neighbor was killed. I did what I could to run errands for the woman and other things she was not handling because of a severe depression --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my gratitude in his letting go;my hope his family could be as courageous as he was --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: it is an inevitably that happens every day and, therefore, we should be grateful for having loved ones for however short a period and we should not waste time carrying grudges and hate in our hearts. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my father's and my brother's own deaths came without suffering and while they were still seemingly healthy and enjoying life --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: I was. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the depression and suffering of others --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: na --[My --specify--'s] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: the death of my younger brother shocked me, but I focused on helping my sister deal with it, emphasizing to her that like the athlete in Auden's "To An Athlete dying Young," he had died at a time in his life when all was going so well for him. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 8 14:19:42 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: who dies, spinning straw into gold, and other books about death and dying (same author) or about illness (metaphor as illness) Recommended Reading-- Writers: stephen levine and other writers(susan sontag:metaphor as illness - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, yrs1/2 ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 71. --Details: he chose to struggle with experimental programs:I think his struggle allowed his family eventually to let him go, given the suffering and debilitation; and he knew when he could tell them it was time. He got them ready for what they could not have faced if he had not chosen to struggle. In the end, he made it easier for them by choosing to suffer until he knew he couldn't endure any more and he was sure neither could they.I didn't at all see him struggling to avoid death. I saw him trying to get his family to accept,even welcome, his death. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: different things to different people. For some, it is a loss. For others, the end of life. For others, nothingness. For some, movement to another dimension. For some, a natural part of the life/death cycle. Consequently, people experience it differently--- emotionally. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was in awe of its suddenness and permenance --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...neighbor,an accident where a teenage son of neighbor was killed. I did what I could to run errands for the woman and other things she was not handling because of a severe depression --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my gratitude in his letting go;my hope his family could be as courageous as he was --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: it is an inevitably that happens every day and, therefore, we should be grateful for having loved ones for however short a period and we should not waste time carrying grudges and hate in our hearts. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my father's and my brother's own deaths came without suffering and while they were still seemingly healthy and enjoying life --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: I was. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the depression and suffering of others --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: na --[My --specify--'s] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: the death of my younger brother shocked me, but I focused on helping my sister deal with it, emphasizing to her that like the athlete in Auden's "To An Athlete dying Young," he had died at a time in his life when all was going so well for him. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 8 05:58:03 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Other: ] Looking for other things in research, and found you - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Daughter, 8 mths ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 17.5. --Details: she was a step-daughter - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: one of the worst emotional experiences that any one could ever endure --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I didnt know what to do. My feelings were so tightly wound up, I felt that I would explode. I didn't feel that life was worth living, too painful. --That first time, how it happened was My eldest brother was killed in a car accident, I had only recently turned 14. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the state of shock, extreme depression, anger --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: lack of real support --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: give them love and understanding - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying didn't really deal with it. Parents didn't understand that we were suffering to. We didn't quite know how to deal with it. my self and my other siblings blamed ourselves for living. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 8 01:16:28 2001 F17 in sudbury, ontario (and that is a PROVINCE for all you americans =canada= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: mcdonalds drive thru (my dream) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: i expect you to reply. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 4 ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 41. --Details: hung on an oak tree about 5 minutes away from my house that my mother and i still live in. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the body is a shell for an invisible essence called the soul. when we die (either by sickness, injury, old age or suicide...etc) our soul leaves, releasing the body that is now rendered useless. the body then decomposes and a skeletal reminder is left. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I did not really undstand it. i knew what death was, but never really accociated with it personally until then. i was more amazed that something like this was a natural thing. also, i never realized how heartbreaking the effect on people around me who new, was. --That first time, how it happened was a childhood "boy" friend who lived down the street, killed in a school bus accident --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the shock. the waiting. the nagging and almost psycotic realization that something really bad had happened, and things would never be the same again. --What I think my (canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: death is real. people love to walk on the edge, and shun the possibilty. alot has to do with the feelings of immortality that my culture bottles, packages, and sells. not enough appreciation. alot of people wear depression like a fashion, and i think alot of people are so self involved in what they believe death is just glamour, not final. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: im not really grateful. i pretty much had to make myself appreciate life. if not, then what would have been the alternative? not a good way to live, thats for sure. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my mom. pretty much myself. all my friends and family at the time said lots words, but nothing was lasting. when it was old for them, then it got too old to bother with, you knwo? they have lives to deal with too, and we all need to do our own thing. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the waiting period. not knowing where he was for a night and a half afer finding the note. not knowing if he was alive or dead. not knowing what was going to happen. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: all you need is love. period. and right know, you fuckin better well know that you have mine. --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: didnt totally snap. people know that my dad died, and alot of people can relate to death. but they fucking dont know what it was like reading stuff said to you in a suicide note. being raised my a suicidal. the rumers, the lack of understanding, the guilt, the lasting impression. i wont forget those days ever, and sometimes when i think to much, it disturbes my thought pattern. people dont see that. i had to learn to adapt. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: they big questions arose:why did who do it? was it somebodys fault? where the fuck was i and how did i get there? what the fuck was gonna happen now. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it must have been the bodies own psycological way of saving yourself from overwhleming grief. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be with my mother instead of running around town fucked up on drugs. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: ...im not really sure to tell you the truth. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: my spiritual connection with the deceased. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: are you ok? are you ok? is you mom ok?are you ok? are you ok? is your mom ok? are you ok? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU FUCKS? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY WAY, IVE GOT SHIT TO DEAL WITH!!! --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i think about the old days, before it happened. when i look aat my 7 year old sister and my 5 year old brother? what willl we tell them? when i look at my mom, who is so strong. when i remember when we did stuff together, like go to lilly creek, and drop pepples in the water and count how many ripples. airplane rides. when youcaught me sneaking out the window. when we faught. the cruel stuff we said to eachother. i look at the life my brother and sister have set out for them. the things they will hear. they rumors, the frustration, the guilt. asshole. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... i wouldnt have turned out this way. probably not have put mom through so much shit. a normal childhood for my brother and sister. my mother and i would have not became depresses ourselves (we should know better, but who controlles these things anyways?). the both us were perscribes to celexa. everything would be differant. everthing. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that it had to be you. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could just fade away. i think aboutit to much, it becomes twisted in my mind. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I forced myself to ignore. the week after it happened, me and two girlfriends binged on wildness, disillusionment and lots and lots of acid (i have no idea know how i survived on hits for that short period without seriously snapping once. it put me in a dream state, and i made myself pretend like nothing happened.) it was the only way i knew how. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: tell us the news. give us not one fucking penny in death insurance, (my mom alone with three kids, and alot of new things to think about) --Regarding HOSPICE etc: n/a --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: i am atheist. my family as well. --Religious Affiliation: nothing --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: in the past few years, i have had acual, real, unexplanable, impossible contacts with ghosts. i am not crazy, i am not mistaking something for something else. i have recieved communicative messages in plain and simple writing, supernatural occurances which CANNOT be fabricated by any person in the flesh and bone. i was not imaganing things, i have several acquaintences with me at the time who have seen everything i have seen, and they to have no other explanation to the events that occured. --Regarding MONEY: we werent getting any to help us out. exept my moms job, that held us together with just enough security to live a regular lifestyle. and i dont mean allowance, shopping sprees, or new tvs, thats for sure. --Regarding the FUNERAL: the amount of people that showed up. if he had known how many people who cared, he would have shit right in his pants. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: to way my thought patterns changed. they way i needed to discard anything and everything that associated with my "old life" (thats what i call it pryor to the event), and start everthing from scratch. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : realization. understanding. the ability to decide that you will not base your life on things that happened, but learing that life does go on. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it was an oppartunity to become wiser in my understanding of life, and to use what i have learned to better myself, and the things around me ('god' knows when this is gonna happen.) --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': he was mentally ill. who knows what he saw. --RE: Near Death Experiences: i swallowed a bottle of pills in march. they were anti-depressants, so i know the chance of seriously dying were slim. i think i did it was a climax of my depression, and maybe to get a batter understanding of what it might have been like for my dad. my boyfriend at the time told me that everyone has problems, and that it is the same for everyone. we all live our lives, and things are never perfect for anyone. but it is those people who are strong enough not to let themselves fall who deserve to live. he told me i was strong. it changed my life. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: hey dad, i still love. it was a terrible and shitty thing, and you got your wish when you decided that you werent getting enough attention. but i cant go on grieving for someone who did this to me and our own family. i miss you every day, but much against your wishes, life does go on. --If we were to visit one last conversation... oh god. first off,everything that you are thinking is wrong. im sorry for everthing i might have done to you, ... there's just to much. sorry. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: ok, let me just tell you that i am not stretching my story one bit here. the first christmas, approx 3 months after, something unexplainable happened. it was christmas morning, around 10 am, and we were getting ready to go to the cemetary to visit. my mother and i got in a fight over something, and i took off. the snow had jst fallen, and the only footprints visible must have been just made. i was walking down my road when i saw a set of prints, identacle to mine in the snow. same size, same designs exactly and same everything. i started following them, and they led into the bush. i followed these prints about 10 mins down a trail, the they slowly faded until there were no more. i stopped, had no idea were i was, looked to the left, and found that i was standing directly beside the tree that he died on. i had never been there before, but as soon as i looked at it, there was no doubt in my mind. my mom and my aunt went there with the detective a couple days earlier, but i didnt go with them. they brought a vase with some roses in it, and left it there. thats how i knew for certain that that's what it was. the rest is unimportant. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: any kids of mine be taken care of with lots of love. my mom getting the love and stuff that she deserves. for people to just be happy with themselves. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i just hope my dreams come true for me too. im not scared of death. but i do know that we ahave limited time, and theres so much that i would like to see done. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: being totally free. no school, no rules (though i do have a part time job), and alot of partying. me and my friend drove from ontario to bc the summer is turned 16, just the two of us. its things like that that i live for. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? i write alot of poetry. i way to get things out, i guess. also these damn internet surveys!! --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? weed. sarah, the only really close friend that stuck with me, before, during, and after all this. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Thoughts of the Afterlife --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: tell them that all you need is love. and you have mine, so you cant say you have none. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - nothing new. did you expect that it would enlighten me? i have learned all that i know from me myself and i, and no way is some quesstionnaire going to change my life, or give me something that i havent thought about already. i am not stupid, you know. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? what were some of true, and astonishing things you have concluded about life. what were the things you focused on to get yourself through the bad times (just to help yourself recognize what does make you happy). ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon May 7 18:43:39 2001 F28 in Long Island, New York =United States= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Death Be Not Proud Recommended Reading-- Writers: John Gunther - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of BoyFriend, 12 yrs ago. Cause of Death: an accident; Aged: 17. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when a person no longer exists physically but is always remembered. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I did not understand. I was sixteen and a catechist teaching young children about things that apparently I really did not understand. I denounced my religion and my faith as I did not feel that I was treated fairly. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my first love got into an accident on his motorcycle...his death was inevitable, but his family waited two weeks to take him off of the life support --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the lack of support from my family. I was told to 'get over it' and 'what do you know about love... you are only sixteen'. --What I think my (United States) culture needs to better learn about death is: that death is not a simple passing from one life into another. Death is unexplainable and uncontrollable and it hurts. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I was given a chance to be apart of that person's life and I will never forget that person. I am grateful for being able to explain death simply to my children. I tell them that when a person dies, they remain close to your heart as long as they are remembered, and that Jesus who died for us and remains in our heart protects the dead from being scared. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: I had no support. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Getting over it. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Let them know that you know they are dying and that they are loved and will be remembered always. --[My BoyFriend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: was able to deal with it on my own as a young woman. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: scared more than confused about what actually happens after someone dies... --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I don't remember laughing for a long time after his death and when I did I think I was inebriated. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say good-bye. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: I wasn't able to handle anything about his death well. I was a mess. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I dreamed of him alive and visiting me after he died. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: I don't know. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I think of the places we discovered together. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I think that maybe we would have broken up and gone on with our lives separately. I do believe there was a strong connection, and I believe he would have sat with me given the same circumstances. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... I believed completely in my faith, all I had was his friendship and it was taken from me. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could turn back time. But then again, I would not have the life I have now- my two children- too confusing a thought. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I sat by his side for two weeks hoping he would live and knowing that he would die. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: unable to remember anything but him. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Everything!!! I felt betrayed and going to church after his death has been very painful. --Religious Affiliation: Roman Catholic --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: right. --Regarding MONEY: not applicable --Regarding the FUNERAL: pain --The weirdest part of it all to me was: people came out of nowhere to be at the funeral. Where were they during his life? --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : I don't know. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I was unable to deal. I drank to deal. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I think I am okay considering I have not dealt with his death completely with the support of others. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would hope to see him smile- he loved to smile. I would say that I hope he had found peace and I wish that he could have experienced more of life before he had to go. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: this is funny as I have already mentioned this. My dream occurred a few weeks after he died. He came to me in my dream in his typical style. I questioned his presence (even though I was sleeping) and he told me that he had to go and that he came to say good-bye. I begged him to stay and he smiled and walked away. The funny thing is that I don't know if the light he walked into was part of my dream or if I actually saw a bright light as I woke from the dream. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I would hope for my friends and family to remember the good times and the times we learned from each other. Remember that I am free... --Any thoughts about your own death?: I am basically indestructable at this point. Hard and cold. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I used to light a candle in a Catholic church, as hard as it was to go to church. Now candles are no longer in churches, thanks to the hideous acts of others, or fire codes... whatever! --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I love thinking about the simple things in life the wind and sun on my face and I am an avid candle collector. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I was kept from my family to be close with his family. I had no chance to grieve. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Alcohol What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I would have been better off with the support of family. My support became the bottle. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It made me think of how angry I feel. I remember him with fondness, but all else is hurtful memory. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? don't know ... think you did fine. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon May 7 13:20:43 2001 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Friend ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 1 yr. ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 78. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: scary --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I i cried i couldnt believe it really happened --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my uncle who lives in south carolina was driving on a dark and narrow road and speeding. He was going to fast to realize there was a truck pulling half of a mobile home behind it stopped in the middle of the road. My uncle and his car went completely through the mobile home. He died instantly. the crash crushed his entire head, tore off one of his arms and one of his legs, and crushed his chest. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my dad crying, it was his stepfather --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: they are going to a better place --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: it ended his suffering --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: peace of mind --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: him being the only grandfather i ever knew --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... in my uncles case he was young --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could bring him back w/o pain --Regarding HOSPICE etc: i didnt have any i wasnt in town --Religious Affiliation: baptist - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System talk about it What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Lack of Awareness ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon May 7 02:45:43 2001 F20 in , Missouri =USA= Web: http://homestead.juno.com/xakana/index.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] friend gave me a link to a page that had you listed--a psych experiment search page - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Best Friend, 8 yrs ago. Cause of Death: fire/smoke inhalation; Aged: 12. --Details: it was right before her birthday and I had a dream the same night about fire and forboding... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an end to consciousness, where our body decays to become one with the eath and we theoretically enter the afterlife with the essesnce of who were are and what we think. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I went into a deep depression --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my best friend died...at least, that's my first experience with human death --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the body's strange heat and the rose I laid across it... then the way I associated it with her not eating, sleeping, laughing, crying fulfilling her dreams anymore... --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: act normal, treat them well but not differently than you wold normally, except avoiding fights or other unpleasantness. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I didn't laugh out loud, but I did want to laugh. She said in life that she'd never be caught dead in a dress, but there she was, dead and in a dress. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Visit her house, as she requested, before she died. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing at all. --Religious Affiliation: Alternative Monotheistic Wiccan--current, athiest--past --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: unreal, but hopeful. --RE: Near Death Experiences: My aunt experienced the 'light tunnel' phenomenon. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I want to be buried in a wooden coffin, no embalming until four days after I die, no non-biodegradable fabric of cloting and if I'm embalmed, I'd prefer to be mummified, with my organs left inside, though. And my possessions should be equally devided amongst those I cared for, according to use. --Any thoughts about your own death?: It will come, me kicking and screaming to fight and stop it. I'm scared to die, yet desire it often. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death also the loss of a clse friend --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I reach out by being friends with anybody who needs me and being a conforting ear. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - Unfortunately, it was nothing I hadn't thought of before. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 3 22:11:54 2001 M26 in , North Carolina == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Yahoo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: medicine - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 3 ago. Cause of Death: stroke; Aged: 80. --Details: Woke suddenly from sleep, stated that it was time for him to bring his aluminum cans to the recycler, then fell back onto the bed unconscious. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when our cells can no longer regenerate and sustain life. The person we were ceases to be what we were and becomes something else. Perhaps a new life, perhaps just a memory. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I observed everyone with confusion and fascination. It seemed to affect everyone else so dramatically, but I was just confused. --That first time, how it happened was We lived in an old house that was said to be haunted. I didn't know what haunted meant so I asked my mother. She showed me pictures of the people who lived in the house many, many years prior and explained that they were dead. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: How my family held one another. How stoic my father was in announcing his passing and how everyone went to him for comfort. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: that the dead probably don't care about bullshit anymore. Murdered people probably don't bear grudges against their murderers. Whatever we become when we're dead, it's probably something less petty and vindictive than a human. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: The mother's day at grandpa's house the year before he died. All the generations of each side of the family was there. There must have been fifty people there that day and each of them could be traced back to grandpa and nana. It made me realize was success really is. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my wife. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Consoling Nana and seeing how alone she felt. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Let them die. Don't berate them with "Fight . . .live . . .hang on" just love them. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: The man said he had to cash in his aluminum cans and then dropped dead. That's just funny. It was his last joke. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: take the cans to the recycler before they piled up so high. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: The paramedics did all they could, when it was really just a show for Nana. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I go home and see how messy it isn't. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that I lived so far away. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I started planning for what was next. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: resignation. I'm a medical professional and I know how little can really be done for strokes of that magnitude. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: practically nothing. It was a place to have the funeral. --Religious Affiliation: protestant --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: humbling. --Regarding MONEY: Nana had to be taken care of. --Regarding the FUNERAL: it was good --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : eating whatever and however much junk you want to. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': didn't see it. Here one minute, gone the next. --RE: Near Death Experiences: Was driving home very late one night having been up about 27 hours on 5 hours sleep. I struggled to stay awake. At one point, I was not in the car anymore but was in fact looking down at the top of the car. At first I didn't mind, but then when I realized that I was not where I needed to be, I snapped back into the car with my heart pounding. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: It was all fine --If we were to visit one last conversation... Thanks for everything and good luck. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I hear words sometimes --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I believe that people should be entitled to a dignified end. This includes the right to pro-actively facilitate the death process. We intervene in natural processes all the time. It's called medicine. Once a person enters the death avoidance game (medical intervention) they should be able to decide when they've had enough. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I don't fear death like I fear pain. I would not want to leave my family. I can tell that Nana is waiting to die. She is literally killing time. I can't blame her. I would hope to die like a bug on a windshield. Just humming along and then SPLAT! --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I took the damn cans to the recycler and told him so. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? With my father in law. We see eye to eye now and feel more like birds of a feather. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities At that age it was more of a learning process to understand what death was, rather than a person close to me actually dying. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I often counsel families of sick or injured persons as part of my job. I try to be honest and sincere. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 3 21:04:25 2001 F57 in Sierra Vista, AZ =USA= Name: Enid Schwartz Email: <jschwart=at=sprynet.com> Web: http://home.sprynet.com/~jschwart/Enid.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] I typed in spirituality and dying and this was one of the hits - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Bereavement facilitator, speaker for PESI Health Care, Adjunct faculty for a community college, nurse (retired), ABD for a degree in Health Psychology - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Husband, 1 yr. ago. Cause of Death: septicemia; Aged: 57. --Details: He was diagnosed with CLL a year before he died. The CLL triggered ITP. He had a pic line, an arterial line and a splenectomy was performed. He ended up becoming septic and died in ICU. I had the respirator removed when his kidneys failed. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life as we know it on earth. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I The first death of a person I can remember was my grandfather when I was 15. He died in a mental hospital where he was placed because of dementia. I don't remember the very first death I witnessed, but the one I remember was a child I took care of who had cystic fibrosis. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My first death was that of my pet dog. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: was that he went peacefully and that is death caused a number of people, including myself to reflect on our lives and think about what it is that is important. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: I'm not sure. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I was able to do what I wanted to do with my life sooner than we had planned. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my friends. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: not having him with me, especially when I needed to do the things he usually took care of with things like the house, the truck, the travel trailer. I miss his physical presence in my life. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: talk with them and let them know how much you love them, even if they can't respond. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: the doctors were hopeful and I had the sense that there was no point in letting him continue. I knew I was going to lose him 3 nights before I finally let him go. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: laughter is healing, it is a catharsis and it has a different effect than the tears, but is just as helpful. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Have talked with him more about all the wonderful things that our relationship has given me. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there with him as his spirit left his body. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: a former student (nurse) was willing to tell me honestly that my husband's chances of survival were slim. I knew that, but no one else was willing to be honest about that. The physicians were not ready to give up on the chance that he might survive. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: It is to early for me to think "I'm over it." I don't think I will ever "get over it" as he was a part of my life for 33 years. However, I do know that, although there will be triggers, the pain and the reaction will change, and hopefully lesson, over time. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would be still doing a job I was ready to leave, and we would be planning for my retirement from that job and thinking about traveling. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that he died so young. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could have him back. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was really angry with him for leaving me before we had completed the things we planned. I also used humor a lot to deal with, not cover up, the pain. As a humorist, I was aware of what I was doing, and did it deliberately. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: thankfulness that they cared enough to do everything they could to help him. I received a great deal of support from the nurses and a few of his physicians. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: He never made it to hospice. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: A place where I could go to get support and comfort. We have a small congregation and everyone in it is a friend. I also went to a meditation workshop sponsored by the Reform Jewish movement and found that very helpful. --Religious Affiliation: Jewish --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: like a comfortable concept. I was aware of my husband's spirit having left his body, and having left my side. Plus, people have told me that they have seen or felt my husband. --Regarding MONEY: this was not an issue. --Regarding the FUNERAL: that despite the short notice people had a Joe's death, there were a lot of people there. The funeral was very moving, and I have many special memories of certain people being there, and the way that everything seemed to come together. A friend of mine sang "Wind Beneath my Wings", I read a letter I wrote to him, and both rabbis who officiated added just the right touch of humor, which is something he would have wanted. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: The fact that his spirit hung around, and that people told me they had seen him, or heard him, or felt him even months afterwards. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : I have clinical experience in this area and don't wish to write all I know here. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it was not as painful as I expected. As much as I miss him and wish he had not died, I have filled my life with things that were meaningful to me, I have continued with some of our plans, and I have added new things to my life. All this has helped me in my processes. Plus, I still have a strong sense of presence now and then that I attribute to Joe's spirit. That gives me comfort. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I've already mentioned that friends, as well as myself have felt his spirit. I have also been aware of my late sister's spirit now and then. --RE: Near Death Experiences: I have a former student and a former co-worker who both have shared a NDE. Both of them found the experience a little unsettling, but also comforting. They both reported that death is not frightening to them. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I have preached a long time about not having unresolved business and therefor left none between my husband and myself. I did have some between my sister and myself, and I dealt with them by talking about them and letting her know. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would tell him how much I love him and appreciate all that he has given me. I would also assure him that I am going to be OK. I sense that my husband's spirit is still not ready to leave this world and move on. It is as if he is still unsettled. I would feel better if I knew he were truly at peace. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I have had a sense of presence, like a change in energy. On a trip to Colorado 6 months after he died, I felt as if the energy was a protective shield. At a conference in Colorado, a friend told me that she saw Joe between us one time when we were sitting next to each other. I've had friends tell me he was worried about me, and I had one friend tell me that he told her to tell me he likes the remodeling I did on our kitchen. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I have seen families struggle with the issue of letting go, and seen them hold on and not agree to a DNR, or to request a feeding tube put in when not feeding the person would be a greater mercy. I want to be sure my sister understands exactly what I want in my advanced directives. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I don't fear the death itself. Being a cancer survivor and having worked through some of my own issues, what I would regret the most is not having done those two states my husband and I didn't do (we've been in 48 states). I would also regret not being able to do what I do now and would want to find someway to teach others as I die. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I don't like that word "closure" because it sounds as if I am closing a door on him and our life together. He will always be with me, even if it is not as powerfully as he is now. I don't have a ritual, but I do use anger in a humorous way to deal with his loss. I also talk with him a lot. The other thing I do is bring back stones from special places I've been and bring them to his grave and tell him about the event. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I'm not sure what the above means. I have become more sensitive to others going through a similar experience. I have actually found that some rituals are hard to do, such as lighting the candles on Friday nights. I can do them if there is someone else in the house, but lighting them when I'm alone is hard. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I have a new male friend who lives 1800 miles away. He lost his wife a year before Joe died. We have a lot in common and find that we give each other support. It is a comfortable friendship, and one that I sense will be a lasting friendship. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System I believe that death is a part of life. My support system is also very important. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Upbringing My family was death denying, so I didn't have their support in my journey to understand how to deal with death. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I do end of life seminars for health care personnel and I teach loss, grief and dying at a community college. I also co-lead a bereavement group. I bring to all that my educational knowledge, as well as my personal knowledge. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It was an interesting experience. Enhancements: I don't have time to do all this now. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 3 14:02:26 2001 F19 in Daly City, California =United States of America= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 3 years ago. Cause of Death: Heart Failure; Aged: 73. --Details: He had a heart problem for much of his life. He had to take pills when he had chest pain. He had a few bypass surgeries. And the day he died, I was in school. My family was at the hospital to see him...they did not tell me until afterschool. I was soo mad at them. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the stopping of our hearts, of our brains, our body's ability to function. But, that is not true for our souls. We do not know what happens to them because we are a bundle of energy. Energy just does not just disappear, it turns into another kind of energy. Well, hopefully. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I cried because my parents cried. I did not quite understand why my great grandmother had to leave. I just knew she had to go and that she would not come back. --That first time, how it happened was It was my great great grandmother. She died at age 93. I was sad, of course, but I was so young. I don't think I really understood. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how much I miss him. I don't think a day goes by that I don't think of him. I loved my grandfather so much. I miss the sound of his voice, and his little scruff around his face when he forgot to shave. I remember going to the viewing and being able to see his chest move up and down. My cousins saw it too...I guess that was just wishful thinking. --What I think my (United States of America) culture needs to better learn about death is: nothing. Every family memeber was super supportive to every other family memeber. We talk about him, and comfort eachother. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that my grandfather is in no more pain. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: My mother. She supports me and I support her. We support eachother the most because I think we need it the most. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Never being able to see or hear him again. I can't hug him and I don't know if he is ok. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Give them time. When they want to talk, they will...if they don't, don't push them. When they want to cry, hand them a tissue...and give them comforting rubs on the back so they know you care. --[My GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: cope with him no longer being here. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: IS what happens to us afterward. Is there an afterward? is there nothingness? is there eternity of happiness? --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: n/a --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him how much I loved him and give him a big hug and kiss. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: take care of my mom. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: i realized he might be watching us. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the viewing. I didn't want to see him like that...i wanted to remember him the way he was...happy and vivacious --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i get very scared when i think about death. i think i have an anxiety problem cuz my heartbeat starts to race and feel like i'm freaking out. i think about if he is alone in darkness? or if he misses us? or what will happen to me when i die? --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... We'd still be very happy. he'd still probably have chest pains and many problems. he could attend my graduation. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... why did my grandmother have to unplug the respirator? --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could tell him everything. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I cried. When my father first told me, I asked him if it was a joke..cuz if it was, i didn't think it was funny. When he looked down...my eyes welled up with tears and I said "no Dad..no, he can't be dead" and he hugged me. And then I cried and cried and cried. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: trying to find peace...peace for my grandfather, and for my family and i. --Religious Affiliation: non practicing methodist --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: so true. --Regarding MONEY: none of us cared about money. we are very family oriented...not money oriented. --Regarding the FUNERAL: i didn't notice a single person...the only person i cared about was my grandfather...i remember crying...only being able to think of him and how much i was going to miss him and how much i wish he could stay. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: how everything was in slow motion. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : when they start wanting to know more about what is going on right now in your life, and if you will be ok. and them telling you how much they love you. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: i was in shock...i never denied he was dead...and when i found out my grandmother pulled the plug on him, i was angry. after that i was just very sad...and soon after, started to try and heal. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': i don't know --RE: Near Death Experiences: i don't think anyone i know...including me, has ever had a near death experience --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: i have none...but i know others who do. --If we were to visit one last conversation... i would say "i love you grandpa...i hope you are doing well.i wish i could have told you goodbye. grandpa...is death anything to be afraid of?" hopefully he would say..."i love you too lorrie...i'm doing wonderfully...i've missed you very much. i didn't want you to see me how i was...you didn't have to tel me how much you care...i knew. death is nothing at all to be scared of...just be good and you'll see me again. heaven is wonderful. it would give me a great sense of relief. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: i don't think i've had that either...sometiems i feel like he's here when i feel confident and secure...like he's making sure i'm ok. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: i don't want them to think of me dying...i want them to think and remember me when i was alive. i have no rights or wishes when i die...all i want is to be cremated and sprinkled in the ocean. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i have given thought to my own mortality. too much i think. my mom thinks i have an anxiety problem...unfortunatly she told me she gets them too. i think she may have passed it on to me. i myself fear the idea of nothingness...blackness....that goes on for an eternity. i also fear being in heaven...for eternity. i fear the idea of reincarnation cuz you will just keep coming back over and over for all eternity. i don't know how i feel about death...i just know that if i knew i was gonna die...i would go out with a bang. i'd wanna make an impact before i go...leave a dent in the world so noone forgets me.personally, i'd rather not know about my death...just leave it up to god. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: talking to people about my experience with death and theirs. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? i'm very much the same...just very conscious of how fragile we actually are so i try and enjoy every second. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? i haven't made any friendships...infact..shortly after...i lost a friendship. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Friends' Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: one of my friends grandparent died and i was there to comfort her. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - this questionaire made me re-face my fears and think about my own mortality. this is a good questionaire...bittersweet experience. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu May 3 11:23:30 2001 F34 in Regina, Saskatchewan =Canada= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Class Project ] have to do survey for class (university) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Government - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Sister, 10 ago. Cause of Death: unknown death; Aged: 31. --Details: she died at her work station from brain swelling. Very rare medical condition. Only happnes to one in about 3 M people every few years - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life, family, friends. The end of suffering. You no longer exist. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was traumtized by two young people dying. Still have dreams about the people even decades later. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather died in hospital from a stroke. He had been sick so not a total shock --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: feeling like I was having a nervous breakdown. Couldn't get past the grief, loss, shock of losing the person. --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: what happens when you die. I guess I will find out one day (nothing?) --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: friends who listened to me rage, cry. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my daughter and friends. Without them I would be lost. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: guilt of not being there to save them, questioning the hopsital for mistakes, not talking to her longer on the phone the last time I talked to her. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: drop everything. Don't say I don't "do" hospitals. Take something to cheer them up, listem to their problems. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I didn't understand how a healthy person could just "die" without any warning (no accident or other violence invovled). --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: didn't happen to me - didn't laugh. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: talk to the person more --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there when her machines were unplugged. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the stupid food - I hate that at a funeral. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I realize how much I miss my sister after 10 years. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... when someone so taleented and young dies. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: inadequate --Regarding HOSPICE etc: I have been invvovled with a death of a person 55 years old with cancer. The hospice was very caring. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: nothing --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: no clue --Regarding MONEY: the will was tied up forever, the funeral was incredilby expensive. Lawyers and undertakers play on your emotions and suck money out of you. --Regarding the FUNERAL: caring people --The weirdest part of it all to me was: having a dream just before my sister died that we were together. I woke up screaming. I think she was giving me a message. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Talking to People What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? People's Stories, etc. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - a little too long and in depth. Too personal to complete at work for me. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed May 2 18:29:34 2001 F18 in Summersville, West Virginia =US= Name: Anna Email: <annabradshaw=at=usa.net> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Im looking for a subject for a psychology research paper - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Best Friend, 1 year ago. Cause of Death: automobile accident; Aged: 18. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of ones existence. It is like going to sleep permantley. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I became majorly depressed. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was my best friend was killed in an automobile accident when I was 17. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how mad I was at those crying for him. Half of them didn't even know him like I did. --What I think my (US) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is not such a negative thing. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I realized not to take people for granted. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: talking to him.(not actually speaking to him, but saying the things out loud that I never got the chance to say and writing him letters) --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: I didn't know where he went after he died. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him I love him. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: keep control in front of his brother. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: what he was wearing. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I hear a sad song. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... 24/7. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could forget about it. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I became depressed. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing. --Religious Affiliation: none now. At the time...Jehovahs Witness. --Regarding the FUNERAL: there were so many people there who barley knew him. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: feeling relief after seeing him in the casket. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: Horrible. We had a fight the day before. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I love you. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I have dreams which he appears in often. But they are just dreams. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I dont like to think about it. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Going to his grave and talking out loud. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? none - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Prescription Drugs What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Disbelief it could happen ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue May 1 07:44:46 2001 F19 in London, N/A =England= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] serach on yahoo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Maths - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 76. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the loss of ability to sustain ones own life. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I talked about it with my friends and family --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My friends Dad died when I was about 8 years old. He was a close family friend. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the way peoples peception of that person changed after the death --What I think my (England) culture needs to better learn about death is: to talk about it. That talking ill of the dead isn't that bad --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: the fact you look at your own life with a fresh out look. to know that you arn't the be all and end all, life doesn't end when you do, it just keeps going, that life is short, so enjoy it --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: the fact that my parents were willing to talk about it at every oppertunatie, I was encouraged to do the same --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: going to visit there house seeing stuff I accoiate with them but not hearing there voice or seeing them in person --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: visit then just so they know you care and have taken the time, write a letter if you can't see them in person. --[My GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: realised what kind of person he was, not just my grandfather but many things to many people --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I am first told, I don't know how to react, its a bit of a shoch to the system --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: its good to laugh, at situations like that. It destreeses you makes you forget what you were upset about for a little while. You might even make other people laugh --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: find out more about his life, his experences during the war --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: talk through it all and have my friends and family around me --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: My aunt who hadn't seen her father for over 30 yrs sent a flower and a piece of peotry to his funeral --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: Wearing black acting all solummn --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: we used to play together when he used to tease me. How now people say I'm like him --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I don't think about this there is no point living in another world --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that I didn't have the chance to show where I've got today, how much I've achieved --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could turn back time, just for a little while --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I found I could deal with things far better --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: they had no part to play --Regarding HOSPICE etc: they had no part to play --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: they had no part to play --Religious Affiliation: I have none, I do not believe in god(s) --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: any way you want to go thats wher you end up. I don't want to condem any one. --Regarding MONEY: didn't play a part --Regarding the FUNERAL: to much saddness. it should be a time of celebration of that persons life --The weirdest part of it all to me was: how glad I am to be me, to still be alive, of all the things i can still experience, and peoples life I can influence all the friends I can make --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : loss of colour, in eyes and skin. Accectance of what is happening. Refusal of drugs --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: talking about was the most important thing asking all the questions and getting all the answers --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': no --RE: Near Death Experiences: riduclus --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: there is no point --If we were to visit one last conversation... no --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: no --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: will, money and loved ones --Any thoughts about your own death?: im not going to die intill ive experienced the world. Im not affriad of death --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: looking through photos --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? im careful to take the time to experince things fully, and to always have a go --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? having some thing in common can start frinedships but i would hate to friends with someone and thats all there was - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Talking to People seeing my friend go through it What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Viewing the Body --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: by talking - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - yes it brought back some sad memories ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Apr 01 contributions. See Mar 01 contributions. See Current contributions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^