^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Current contributions. See Sep 00 contributions. See Aug 00 contributions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 31 21:13:41 2000 F58 in St Louis, Missouri =USA= Name: Tangerine - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] I enjoy doing tests, experiments, research, surveys, etc., so looked for a site. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: none - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: You may post the fact I am a lesbian - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 11 yrs ago. Cause of Death: complications of brain disease; Aged: 78. --Details: I kept hoping that she could stay at some level in the deterioration I witnessed, and yet every time I saw her she had slipped further. It was like watching a film on a reel unwind backward until there's no film left on the reel. In the end she could not talk, could not even blink, could not eat, and had no idea where she was, and she shook all over. It was very very hard to deal with because I knew my father wasn't taking very good care of her, and yet I couldn't bear to be there. My father and I do not get along well. I lived over 200 miles away and felt unable to help much. In the end witnessing her suffering erased all bad things that I had ever held against her, I was able to forgive her, and feel compassion for her. I was there the day she died, but not at the moment she died--I wish I had been there at that moment. I feel she waited until I could get there so we could have a sense of goodbye between us. Because her blood pressure was like 60 over 40, it makes me feel there was some devine intervention in order for her to still be alive. I didn't cry at the funeral, but driving back to my home I cried all the way until I could barely see how to drive. And finally the only place I could go to to be where she was was at her gravesite. I went there a month or so after she died and did what I call keening. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of organic life on this planet. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was too young for it to effect me, although in some way I understood what it meant. Back then, when I was a very young child, life was so simple. We actually believed that the blue sky over our heads was heaven and that when someone good died that was where they went and they were happy there. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my father's mother passed away from a stroke. This would have been back in the 1940's. I was quite young, I don't know exactly what my age was at the time, but pre-school age. The coffin was placed on a table or something, it was in the livingroom, and all the relatives and immediate family came. In those days people sat up with the dead for 2 to 3 days. Female cousins who were close to me in age were there and we all sat and talked and played on this big bed in one of the rooms. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how she deteriorated and I couldn't stop it. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: funerals don't need to be expensive. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: is the fact I got to say goodbye to her, and I don't have to worry about her any longer living in that horrible old shack they lived in. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my lesbian partner --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: bringing it all back again, crying again. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: just hold their hand, speak softly, offer comfort, just let them know someone is there with them. --[My Mother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: no answer on this. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: the funeral home lady who dresses the deceased was so concerned about me getting underwear for her, and a bra for her. I got the panties, but I didn't get a bra--I didn't know what size to get, she had lost so much weight, and I felt what the hell difference did it makes anyway. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I didn't find anything to laugh about at the time. I cried for months afterwards. Everything I saw reminded me of her. At first I wondered how long it would be before I could quit crying every day--and then when a day came that I didn't cry I felt a little guilty that I didn't. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: take her to specialists in St. Louis, maybe they could have done something. Gotten her away from my inept father! --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: get there in time, before she passed away. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: no answer for this --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: no answer for this --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: filling out this questionnaire has me crying again. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I've actually thought about that. If my mother were still living it would have been extremely difficult, if not impossible for me to move even further away, which I have done. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... Its just not fair that we get given youth and beauty and energy and then it all gets robbed from us. Disease and pain aren't fair. I understand death has to come in order to have room for more people here, but to make us old and ugly and sick that is cruel. And to never let us really know for sure whether there is or isn't an afterlife or is or isn't a God--is very cruel. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could the thought of death & dying is difficult, because one doesn't know how lingering and painful a death one may have, or whether or not one exists after death. I wish I could just know the answers. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I no answer for this --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: I don't have much faith in doctors. They didn't do squat for my mother. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: The nursing home was all right, and the staff. Although the socks I purchased for mother were immediately stolen. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Organized religion don't know shit. Pardon my language, but that's exactly how I feel. --Religious Affiliation: My mother tried to raise me as Catholic, but it never took. I disliked it from the get-go. It was a major source of conflict between us. Later I explored other religions, for awhile I was a member of the Unitarian Church. Presently I am not a member of any church, nor a follower of any religion. I am an agnostic --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: no answer for this --Regarding MONEY: Everybody's got their hand out. I was going to try to give Mother a Catholic funeral because that's the religion she was. There was absolutely no Catholics at all amoung the mourners. My Uncle was helping us with the funeral arrangements and he didn't know anything about that but was willing to help, but then I decided to just not bother with the Catholic funeral. I figured the priest would want a bunch of money. Mother & Dad had just recently moved to a new area and the priest there didn't even know her, she was too ill to attend mass after they moved there. The Catholic funeral thing just seemed pointless, so we got a preacher from a protestant church that had actually met mother. I sent him a donation afterwards for his church. It does bother me some that I promised her I would see that she got a Catholic funeral and I didn't keep that promise. But she was dead and gone so what good would a Catholic funeral have done her anyway. A priest was called and gave her last rites. A bunch of silliness in my opinion--but that was done--so I guess that counts for something. My father called the priest. I was quite surprised because my father never liked the Catholic religion. And by then she was too far gone to have requested it herself. --Regarding the FUNERAL: my father left most of it up to me & my uncle. The one thing that happened that really pissed me off was my dumb-assed cousin, Margie, who took a picture of mother in her coffin. She asked Dad's permission, but he didn't consult me about it, and I found out about it after the fact. I was major pissed off and told them so. Well, see, we went against mother's wishes (yet again)and had an open casket. She had always said she wanted a closed one, but Dad and I wanted her to be on view. We felt she looked fine, and to close the casket would look as if something were wrong with her. But I didn't want a picture taken, and I know she wouldn't have! --The weirdest part of it all to me was: no answer on this --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : I was in denial up until about two months before my mother's death. I kept rationalizing why she behaved as she did. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: its just a matter of time. Nothing else helps. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': nothing like this happened. --RE: Near Death Experiences: no answer on this --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: Her dying, her suffering resolved them for me. I was able to forgive her everything she had ever done that had ever hurt me. Although I remain puzzled about her in many respects regarding behaviors of hers. --If we were to visit one last conversation... nothing. I have nothing left to say to her, other than the fact I wonder if she still exists in some way. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: The only thing that has ever happened like that is my cousin Ozro in regards to our grandfather. My cousin is a very honest person so I believe him. He says he doesn't know for sure, but it did not seem like a dream. My cousin was away in Viet Nam at the time our maternal grandfather passed away so he was unable to attend the funeral. I forget the exact time frame--it wasn't immediately--it may have been a year or two, but my cousin woke up in the middle of the night and saw our grandfather standing at the foot of his bed and grandfather spoke to him and said: "Don't worry about me. I'm all right." --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: A person should have the right to have their suffering ended. I do not want any steps taken to keep me living in pain or in a vegetative state, or blind, or paralyzed. The quality of life is very important. Life is hard enough as it is. --Any thoughts about your own death?: There are times when the thought of simply not existing any more, no longer being on this Earth is totally terrifying to me. There are other times when life is hard and when I dread what may be lying in wait for me in the way of a lingering and painful death, or perhaps declining health or surgeries, then I wish it were just over with. There are times when I think of suicide and not having to deal with life any more. And wonder if I knew I was going to die of a very painful disease would I have the courage to take my own life. I don't know, but I hope I would. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: going to the gravesite, doing a Native American type of mourning called keening. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? none --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I am ashamed of the fact that sitting there in the funeral home I flirted with a man, the pastor of my mother's sister's church. I don't know why I did that. But no new friendships. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? The Funeral the hope there is an afterlife, and knowing the person is no longer suffering What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Crying and Crying just plain not knowing if there is an afterlife or not. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I tried to help my father but no one was really able to help him. He just about went crazy after mother's illness & death, there were times when I just didn't know if he was going to pull out of it or not. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It was interesting. I don't know that it helped me re-think any of my feelings about death or dying. I don't think there are any answers here. I just hope there are some eventually. I hope all of this isn't just for nothing--that there is some kind of afterlife with peace, love, justice and knowledge. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? no answer to this Enhancements: no answer to this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 31 21:00:39 2000 M50 in melbourne, victoria =australia= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] I looked for you. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: barman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: --Details: not a recent death but rather the illness of my father and the ageing process in general. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a recurring process where we cease to exist in this body and return in a new one until we attain a state of mind where we reach an enlightened state so that we have overcome our limitations. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I could'nt believe it. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...it was my paternal grandmother who died from lack of interest in life. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the fear of lonliness. --What I think my (australia) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is just another part of life --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: the thoughts it provoked --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my faith --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: missing them --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: shallow claptrap --Religious Affiliation: PAST....roman catholic CURRENT...buddhist - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Illicit Drugs i'm a long time drug addict and that has helped me not think about the subjectbut an interest in buddhism has helped me come to terms with the topic. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Religion/Clergy catholic church..fear..disbelief.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 31 15:38:28 2000 F48 in Wauwatosa, WI =Milwaukee= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 4 days ago. Cause of Death: aspirated?? or heart failure; Aged: 81. --Details: Went to see him Friday night after a successful hip surgery with relatives. He was doing fine and I received a phone call at 6:15 AM that the medical team was in his room at the hospital and to come in. By the time I got there they were stabalizing him and moving him to intensive care. What I wasn't ready for it that essentially he was dead and they revived him after he'd been without oxygen for 20 minutes. The doctors determined this in ICU and I requested the life support and drugs removed. They removed the drugs first and his BP went from 70/50 to 13/13 in less than a minute or two. Once the breathing machine was shut down he was gone. I was asked about an autopsy and said absolutely since I wanted to know what the heck happened. As of today they are looking at possible aspiration but not all the fluid reports are in. He had been xrayed and there was no cogestion in his lungs that day so what happened that his body accumulated that much fluid so quickly. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of our physical existance..we vanish off the face of the earth with the exception of memories by loved ones. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I didn't have a clue what was happening --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...friend died in a car accident --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how I knew my father was not in his body..that his essence I knew my father was gone and all that remained was a shell. How the doctor moved a light over his eyes and they didnot respond. How cold his hand was when I touched it and how he didnot respond to my voice. Me telling him I was letting him go and how surreal it all felt --What I think my (Milwaukee) culture needs to better learn about death is: to allow us to grieve with adequate time off from work and everyday life to heal --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Once the life support was removed he went quickly --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: That my family was with me during the whole final hours --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Making the decision to remove life support even though I knew there was no chance. Dealing with that issue in itself and acutally having to do it. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Touching them and talking to them. Telling them they are loved and its ok to go. In my case I told my father I was letting him go and that I loved him. --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: had to make some very difficult decisions and think of his quality of life --The most confusing point of death for me was when: They revived him only to have him go to ICU and have me remove life support. Why after 20 minutes was his heart capable of beating? Was it only the drugs? Then why is this even done? --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I didn't laugh during this at all --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: have my father open up to me more about his feelings. He was very tight lipped most of the time but I knew he loved and was proud of me. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: go through with his wishes with family around him --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: They removed the drugs how quickly his BP dropped --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: he went peacefully..to me he died twice. Once before the resesitated him and again when I had life support removed. Or did he die in stages...conscience and then physical --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: a memory of my Dad comes to mind, a song and even an expression he made --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I would be helping my Dad through rehab again. Trying to encourage him to move and walk. Putting up with his temper tantrums and telling him I love him more. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... When someone young died --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could just run away --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I began to mull over what I should have said or done yet. This took me a couple of days to realize that I had done alot for my father over the period of years during his illnesses --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: they did all they could and infact one doctor was especially upset with what happened. On the other hand a couple doctors who were his primary care physicians never called, sent a card or bothered to tell me what they signed on the death certificate....now they don't give a shit..he was an old man!! --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: pastor was at the hospital..problem was my dad was not a religious man but...we did pray for him --Religious Affiliation: none/catholic --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: Your spirit is your very esscence..your being, your thinking, personality, loves, hates...you as an individual --Regarding MONEY: My dad was wealthy..he had a couple of small insurance policies but I prepaid and planned his funeral 5 years ago when his health was failing. I wasn't looking for a inheritance.. --Regarding the FUNERAL: I'm going through this tomorrow. I have done a story board on my dad's life that was just as much for me as him. He is being buried in Green Bay Packer gear no suit..this was not his style along with the VA is providing a full milltary burial which not only will bring closure to this situation but will be a very very emotional morning for me --The weirdest part of it all to me was: the reality that this had happened...I thought my dad was going to be here forever. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Changes in mood..mannerism...habits. My Dad signed his intials ONLY when entering the hospital. He was always proud of signing his FULL name. In ER he talked non-stop about people, places and things I didn't even know about. He was reliving his entire life to me. He started taking meals in his room the three days before he went in. Part of this was his physical ability to walk had deterioated greatly and he seemed depressed. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: Shock..you are just completely stunned! Heavy duty grief and second guessing as to what you could or should have done. A form of acceptance and moving onward to get the details of the funeral and burial done. I still have another step to do after this Thursday... --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': i was not there when my father actually "died" what I let go was his body --RE: Near Death Experiences: nope --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I wrote the letter for some unresolved issues and will keep my promise. As long as I am alive my father's memory will live on --If we were to visit one last conversation... I talk to my Dad everyday..have not been able to talk to him yet..but hope to --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: That night I smelled his scent in my house a couple of times. Its a very distinct odor that could not be produced by anything else around me. I also had a faint dream of being back in the ICU ward and seeing him peer in from outside the door looking healthy and walking like "hum whats going on in here" and then walking away --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: No artifical machines, drugs to prolong my life --Any thoughts about your own death?: I know it will come..when who knows but I hope I am surrounded by friends and family. If I knew when it was coming I would try to squeeze in as much living as I could..travel whatever --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: His story board was my therapy. I did it very much like a story board for a commercial with pictures and dialog on his life. >From cradle to crypt I wrote a letter to him that I will put in his coffin --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I promoised that even though every Thursday was laundry and treats for Dad that instead I would bring fresh flowers to his site along with having a tree planted in his name at the cemetary (they have a program for this) --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? The people at the center where he lived want me to visit and the social worker and I have become good friends - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Friends' Sensitivities --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: Can't answer this right now - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - good questions even though I have not completed this experience this has helped me understand that my feelings aren't crazy.. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 31 03:59:43 2000 M65 in Rancho Cordova, CA =USA= Name: Ted Laurence Email: <Anim0n=at=pacbell.net> Web: http://zwap.to/Anim0n - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: retired - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: deep into Soulmaking - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: Egyptian Book of the Dead Recommended Reading-- Writers: James Hillman, Carl Jung, Joseph Campbell - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a transition --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...I had a heart attack, and then 5-bypass open-heart surgery --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is a metaphor for an entire psychic change, a radical shift in perspective --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that it is indeed an illusion --[My Self (impending)'s] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: survived, hence http://zwap.to/Anim0n --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: none --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: correct --RE: Near Death Experiences: My focus would be on dreams...many nightmares...and the confidence James Hillman instilled in me that "dreams mean well by us" --Any thoughts about your own death?: it has been my felt experience that "I die, yet not I...my ego dies" --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Sharing...first in AA meeting, and now on the Web... - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Mid-Life How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Friends' Sensitivities Acceptance ala AA What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - timely Enhancements: http://zwap.to/Anim0n ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 30 21:39:55 2000 F20 in toledp, ohio =united states= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Class Project ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 6 yrs ago. Cause of Death: Lugerig's disease; Aged: 65. --Details: She was bed ridden for about 4 years and my grandfather took care of her with the help of hospice during the day while he was working. She was being tube fed and all. In '94 she died. She was my favorite person in the world. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: When God decides he wants us in heaven. And the way we go is so that we can learn lessons and the people who love us and care about us learn lessons also. It is God feels we have lived our life to the fullest extent. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was shocked even though I knew it was going to happen soon. It was hard but I made with the help of family. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... I don't remember the details very well. My great grandmother had Alzhiemer's for several years and she died at age 89. A year later her husband died of severe skin cancer that he had for years and years. It got so bad he died. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The most wonderful woman is gone. Everyone seemed to mourn this death more than all the others in our family --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: My grandmother's death allowed my grandfather and I to get closer. No one really understands him or even gets along with him. If you met you would think bitter sarcastic old man. But he really isn't I sometimes feel that I'm the one who keeps him going and in touch with the family. Because he tends to wihtdraw from things like I do. We are the only cancers (sign) in the family. And we are the truest cancerians. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my freinds and family. But most of all my art work --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: learning of the death in the middle of art calss in my freshman year of high school and having to stay in school the rest of the day. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Be as positive as possible, smile always and have fun around them. don't let them think about what is going on with what's going on in thier life. --[My GrandMother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: satyed positive and always smiled and laughed. I think it physically hurt her to laugh and smile but she denied it. because it helped her mentally --The most confusing point of death for me was when: She had to suffer all those years before she died and looked so peaceful --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: Because of all the stress it is a known fact that laughing reduces stress. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: help ease my grandmother's pain and maybe let her go earlier so she didn't have to suffer for so long and lose her strenght little by little until she was bedridden. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Say goodbye the day before she died --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: A lot of family members regretted the fact that they weren't visiting my grandmother as much as they would have liked to --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: In my family there is a thing that you have to kiss the body during the funeral. I don't like that. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I here the country song "Holes in the floor of heaven" --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I have no idea maybe we would be even closer now than we were before. My grandpa wouldn't be as bitter as he is now. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that she had to suffer for so long and why couldn't I have gone instead. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could she her another time and talk to her --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I I never really went through the unreal stage because I was close to her that It hit me right away. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Hospice is great they help out the way the patient wants helped not how the medical field says they need to be helped. But I wish there was a cure --Regarding HOSPICE etc: They were great we had a woman who stayed for the whole time and ocasional a different woman when She took days off. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Not as much as it should have --Religious Affiliation: Mehtodist --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: This is very true I believe that there is one place where everyone gets along and there are no barries to anything --Regarding MONEY: I'm not sure at all --Regarding the FUNERAL: All the family that i had never met before --The weirdest part of it all to me was: ????????? --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : preparing for death (will, preparations) Seem not in pain for a few hours etc. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I don't really know --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': The night before she died she seemed so peaceful and not in pain as if there were someone there eaing her pain. Well that night she died in her sleep. My grandpa woke up to find her dead. --RE: Near Death Experiences: no --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I feel good about this experience I've learned a lot about it and will continue to grow and learn from other experiences like this. --If we were to visit one last conversation... Ask them how they are doing and if they are peaceful now and ask if they think i'm on the right track. this may help ease some of the pain i felt when i saw how much she was suffering through everything. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: My grandmother has visited my mother and my aunt in person in broad sylight in thier houses i really don't know any other details --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: To take care and remember that it is not what you want it is what they want. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I don't want to know but if i did then i do everything as normal as possible and not tell anyone. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I used art and prayer --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Yes art is not in any classes I take in college but when I get stressed I break out the watercolor paper and my watercolors --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? My other grandma and I have gotten closer since the death of my other grandma - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities The funeral was the hardest beacuse I was used to seeing them alive What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? The Funeral --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I don't know - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I made me remember all over agian everything that happened with my grandmother's death and how the family fell apart but then it came back together. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 30 15:02:29 2000 F28 in BRIGHTON, SUSSEX =ENGLAND= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Other: ] Prof/Studies: ACCESS COURSE H/EDUCATION - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - More personal info: am doing a propject/questionnaire cultures/faith/ and grieving process Recommended Reading-- Writers: BETTY SHINE AND DORIS STOKES BOOKS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 10 ago. Cause of Death: HEART ATTACK; Aged: 68. --Details: HE DIED ON HIS GRAND-DAUGHTERS BIRTHDAY AND WAS BURIED ON HIS BIRTHDAY, I WAS VERY CLOSE TO HIM BUT COPED WELL WITH HIS LOST, BECAUSE OF MY BELIEFS - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: NOTHING TO FEAR, IT IS WHERE WE GO BACK HOME AND REVIEW WHAT WE DID IN OUR LIFE, OR NOT DO, WE GO TO A PLACE WITH UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, AND A KNOWLEDGE TO CHOSE OUR FUTURE DECISIONS,FOR THE NEXT TIME WE NEED TO LEARN SOMETHING WE DID NOT LEARN BEFORE, UNTIL WE AT DIFFERENT STAGES ARE AT ONE WITH THE UNIVERSE --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I COPED WELL, AND KNEW THAT I WOULD SEE MY GRANDAD AGAIN --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... I HAD PREMONITIONED IT TWO WEEKS BEFORE MY GRANDAD DIED, I RECIEVED THE NEWS IN A PUB ON THE PHONE. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: THAT MY GRANDAD DID NOT BELIEVE IN THE AFTERLIFE, AND I SAID TO HIM WHEN HE WAS ALIVE THAT WHEN YOU DIE TOUCH MY HAND SO THAT I KNOW IT IS YOU --What I think my (ENGLAND) culture needs to better learn about death is: NOT TO TREAT DEATH AS A TABOO SUBJECT,TALK ABOUT IT --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: THAT I KNOW THERE IS AN AFTERLIFE THROUGH PERSONL EXPERIENCES --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: MY BELIEF SYSTEM --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: TO BEAWARE OF HOW THEY ARE COPING WITH IT ,BE LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE, AND BASE YOUR ACTIONS ON WHAT YOU FEEL THAT THE PERSON NEEDS --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: SPEND MORE TIME WITH HIM, --Religious Affiliation: RESPECT FOR ALL RELIGIONS AND UNDERSTAND THAT WE/RELIGIONS ARE AT DIFFERENT LEVELS, MY RELIGION IS SPIRITUALISM --Regarding MONEY: EVEN AT THE TIME OF SOMEONE LOSING SOMEONE THE COST IS A RIP OFF, AND THE VUNERABLE ARE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': IS I OFTEN FEEL LOVE ONES AROUND AND ALSO HAVE SEEN THE OULINE OF A WHITE MISTY FIGURE, SEVERAL TIMES, ONCE I WAS SPOKEN TO, WHEN THERE WAS NO- ONE IN THE ROOM, TOLD ME NOT TO WORRY ABOUT A PERSONAL ISSUE --RE: Near Death Experiences: IT HAS HAPPENED TO ONE OF MY FAMILY NOT ME, WENT THROUGH A BRIGHT WHITE TUNNEL, SHE FELT LOVE AND PEACE,FROM A LADY HELD OUT HER HAND TO MY ?, MY ? FELT THAT SHE WAS NOT READY TO GO AND HAD SONMETHING MORE TO DO IN THERE LIVES --Any thoughts about your own death?: WOULD NOT LIKE TO GO YOUNG ATHOUGH IF DID THEN IT IS WRITTEN - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System BELIEVE THST WE GO ON AFTER DEATH What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Helping Other People cope - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? CAME ON TO THIS QUESTIONNAIRE TO GET INSPIRATION FOR A PROJECT DEALING WITH GRIEVING/CULTURES ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat Oct 28 02:31:24 2000 F24 in south-eastern, Minnesota =USA= Name: Lynette Email: <vernimus=at=yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Looking for some psychological help in many areas. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Freelance Artist - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 5? yrs ago. Cause of Death: old age, Alzheimer's; Aged: 86?. --Details: I was about 17. She had Alzheimer's for a long time before that. It was so hard. She forgot all of us. When I was very little, she gave me my first art lessons. She taught me about flowers and animals. That is my whole being now that I have grown. I did not find out until after she had died that she was a published artist. She was also a poet. If only I had had the chance to get to know her better... There's so much more I could have learned. I just want to tell her how much I turned out like her. I'm not even blood-related to her. I'm adopted. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: what keeps us human. It lets us change and strive for things. Our world and our species would never change if the same people lived forever. Death is Mother Nature's way of reusing her resources. Energy is born, but it wanes in all things. It must die to be reborn again. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I The first time I ever saw death, face to face, was a few weeks ago. We had one of our dogs put to sleep. She was very old, but I loved her like I love my daughter. She had a sudden medical problem, and we had to take her that night to put her to sleep. I held her in my arms and talked to her while the vet gave her the injection. I felt the life go out of her, literally. It just went away, and I was holding an empty body. She didn't hurt anymore. It wasn't horrible like I thought it would be. I was so happy that she could be free. Science and nature have proven to us that no energy dies. It changes, transfers, but never dies. I wonder where it goes... --That first time, how it happened was We had our dog put to sleep. I was six, so my parents didn't think I could handle it. I came home from school and she was just gone. My mom finally told me, and I swear, I've been haunted by that same empty feeling ever since. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: It changed my whole outlook on death. It's not scary anymore. Sparkey wanted to go. She was in pain, and she still had all the kisses in the world for me, but it was just time to let go. Once my heart had made that decision, it was so much easier to let her go. Things happen the way they are supposed to. I believe I did the right thing. The good thing. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: It can happen now, in the next 30 seconds, tomorrow, in a year... Time truly is precious. When death comes, you have to be ready. You have to be at peace. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Sparkey's sister, Sally, developed a kidney infection just after Sparkey passed away. Sally was 8 years old. We tried and tried to save her. We had her on IVs and catheters to clean out her system, but it just didn't work like we wanted it to. She stabilized, and we got to bring her home to say good-bye. We spoiled her rotten, spent every minute of two days with her, and on day three, we took her to my Mom and Dad's house, where I grew up, to meet with some family. I was going to go up to my birth-mother's house for a few day, and I knew Sally wouldn't make it until I got back, so I was sitting in the beautiful back yard, full of memories, and telling Sally everything I thought she needed to hear from me before I left. I told her how much I loved her and that she was the best of friends. I told her that it was okay. My husband was going to take her back to the vet the next day and then she could go to sleep with Sparkey. My birth-mother came back to talk to Sally, too. We both sat and petted her for a few minutes and then Sally laid down. I could feel that creeping sensation again, so I yelled for my husband. He came out with my adoptive mom and dad and my 7-year old son and 2-year old daughter. We all stodd around Sally, my mother and I cradling her, as she laid down on my lap and let go. I couldn't wish for a better death myself. It was so perfect. It was like she did it so we could all be with her. It still makes me bawl. Not in sorrow, though. I feel like she did it for us. I got to be with her. We all did. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: My birth-mother is also bi-polar. She has a lot of the same feelings and beliefs as I do about death. She also gets really emotional about her pets. And I can call her at 3AM if I need to. We are both hopeless insomniacs. I don't know where I would be now if I hadn't found her seven years ago. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Coming home and missing their presence. I lost two of my best friends in two months. It hurts pretty bad to have the house so empty. I bought a male-friend for Sally in March. He was just old enough to start breeding when Sally got sick. They fell in love instantly. Now my puppy is so lonely. We all miss them terribly. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Don't let your loved-ones die alone. I would never have let Sparkey or Sally die alone. They were always there for me. It never mattered what I needed or how I looked, they just loved me anyway. I couldn't leave them alone. --[My dog's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: learned that death really is a release. It is a freedom unlike any other. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: When I come home and they are not there to greet me. I can still picture both of them perfectly, just as they always stood when we came through the door. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I know well enough that laughing is a very natural release of tension and extreme anxiety. I do it all the time. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Take Sparkey and Sally for more walks and adventures. I wish I would have bred Sally earlier in the chance of getting another dog with many of her perfect characteristics. She was so sweet. There's never been another dog like her. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be with both of them. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: The last breath from both dogs seemed to be one of pure relief. Like when you sit down after standing all day. It was a long, relaxed sigh. The is no discomfort or fear in that last breath. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: Don't feel sorry for the person, or pet, that has passed away. They just don't care anymore that they aren't here to finish what everyone else thinks they should still do. There's enough stress involved dealing with your own pain. Don't try to hurt for them, too. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I see pictures of other Boston Terriers that resemble my dogs. I saw one on the web today that looked like Sally. They even had the same middle name. Jo. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... Sally would be laying here, curled up with my puppy as always, and Sparkey would be curled up by the heater. They would all be snoring loudly, of course. When I would get up, they would all wake up instantly and follow me on my heels to make sure nothing happened to me. It never mattered how far I was going. They all followed me from room to room, all the time. I still have two of my shadows left, though. I trip less often. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... It doesn't seem fair that they both died so close together. Sally was still young, and it has been a life-long dream of mine to raise Bostons. My male was just old enough, and he even bred Sally. It was five days later that she got the infection. We don't even know if whe was pregnant. The whole family line died out with Sally. She was our hope. It took my friend Phyllis 25 years to get a dog as wonderful as Sally. We took over for her when she retired. Sally didn't quite make it. Now I have to start from scratch. It just won't be the same. My family had gotten dogs from Phyllis since I was very small. She had very special dogs. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Talk to them again, and pet them. I wish I could call them up on my lap. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: The vet was absolutely wonderful! I called him at 3AM about Sally when she got bad. He didn't even mind. He came in after hours to put Sparkey to sleep. This is a smaller-town vet, and he's the only one within 50 miles of us who has an emergency #. He kept Sally for us even though we had no money to give him at the time. He didn't spare a thing because of it, either. He gave her everything while she was there. She even had her own Peter Rabbit blanket. When I went to get her to take her home, Sally didn't even want to go they had treated her so well. The nurses were all fawning over her and telling her how sweet she was. When we called them to tell them that she had passed away, they sent us a wonderful sympathy card. Every one of them signed it. The card was for both Sparkey and Sally. They even cut off some of the bill. I'm so glad I found him before all of this happened. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: I was raised Lutheran, but luckily, I am not susceptible to mass-brainwashing. I respect all religions because I believe that no one has the right to say that theirs is the right one. Just believe in what you feel, not what someone else tells you to feel. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: I believe in this. I believe that some day, when I die, my energy will somewhere, somehow, be mixed with theirs again. --Regarding MONEY: The vet has put no pressure on us. We pay him when we can, and he's perfectly content with that. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: how easy it was to hold them as they died. It was so comforting... --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Disinterest in life itself. World-weariness. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I hold on to the hope that, somehow, it's not over. --RE: Near Death Experiences: When I was 15, I took 150 aspirin. I drank them out of a bottle of Mountain Dew. I won't go into detail, but I got really sick. A friend drove me home and helped me into the house, where I proceeded to try to throw them up. I don't know how much I got rid of, but it had been hours since I had taken them. I crawled into bed. (My mom thought I was drunk. She was pretty irate.) The next day, when I woke up, I suddenly had a flash of memory. My brain tried to register it as a dream, but it just didn't feel right. It was one flash, like a single fram of a movie. I remember a dark chamber, like a cave. (No, there was no fire or brimstone.) Just a normal cave. There was a man at a podium in front of me. He was thin and he wore a brown robe. (This doesn't tell me if it was a dream either, as I dream in color all of the time.) He was pointing at me, and I still get a pulse of the fear that he was putting into me. I get the impression that he was chewing me for trying to choose my own time. It may have been my subconscious, or maybe it wasn't. To this day, I remember that every time I think about my own death. (That happens pretty often, too.) I know that he was very angry with me. And I was very frightened. I think that no matter how bad this bi-polar crap gets, I will just wait until I'm taken. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I was lucky. I have settled matters with the last four loved ones who have died. I realized, with my grandma, that it CAN'T wait until tomorrow or the next time you see them. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would want to hear that I did everything right by them. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: When I was 15, my Welsh pony Princess died. It was a horrible situation, and it would take pages to tell you about it. I'll just say that a lot of confusion, frustration, and guilt went with her passing. I grieved for her constantly for years. Then, one night, I had a dream where I was riding her, and we were just flying over the field. It was so exhilirating! It felt so real. We rode, and I felt like I was totally concious the whole time. I could feel her passion for running coursing through the air around us. I woke up so happy I could hardly cantain myself. I still feel that, in her own way, she let me be at ease. I haven't felt all twisted up about her death since then. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: My dogs will be at the funeral. I do not want an open casket. I think it's creepy to stare at a corpse and think that there is somebody in it. I want it to be outside. I would prefer to just be buried at the foot of some giant tree, but I don't think that is legal. --Any thoughts about your own death?: Like I said earlier, I think about death all of the time. It's just a curse (or blessing) of my condition. I know it is coming, and I will welcome it when it gets here. I do hope I will be around for my children, though. But, if Death chooses me before then, what can I do? --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I bury personal items with all of my loved ones. Something special that we shared. I'm not sure why, but it makes me feel better. I buried a little sack of dried flowers and pretty rocks with my grandma. I even had it put right into her hands. My dogs each got to take their blankets with them. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? Not that I can think of right now. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Just that it made me realize that I need to get as close as I ever want to be to every one I care about. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System I'm bi-polar. I wish for it every day, indirectly. Death is a gentle thing to me now. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Upbringing My parents are not good at showing emotions or dealing with pain. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: My husband and I talked about it a lot. He's not very good at emotions or death. It helped me express some of my feelings just trying to get him to open up. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - This was really helpful. I'm surprised at how much it helped. You asked some very good questions, and I appreciate that "pets" was one of your options. A lot of people are so in love with their pets. They give unconditional love, and that is so hard to let go of. They are so innocent, and it seems that Death should not be able to touch them. They are so different from people. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 27 19:41:28 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, yrs 7 ago. Cause of Death: anurism ; Aged: 78. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Mid-Life How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Viewing the Body ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 26 06:27:22 2000 F21 in Jonesville, NC =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: Psychology/Counseling (death and grievance specialization) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 5 yrs ago. Cause of Death: heart failure; Aged: 41. --Details: Died in a hospital waiting on a heart transplant. I'll never forget hearing the phone ring, Dad telling me to get ready, Mom had taken a turn for the worse and then hearing the nurse at the hopsital tell me that Mom had died "I am sorry, Mrs.... passed away this morning" ( she told me in the hallway, will never forget that - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was it was my great grandma from West Virginia (my dad's side), she died in her sleep from old age --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how it made me realize that death comes with NO warning at any age...(one of my best-guy friends was killed by a truck driver at the age of 21.) I realize my own reality of death --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: what to say to someone after a loss has occurred --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Since Mom died, my family and friends (everyone was close to her) appreciates the time spent with each other...we also make sure that we say "I love you" as often as possible --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: having people there to talk to, having someone's shoulder to cry on and having time to reflect on thier life and how much they meant to me and what I gained from knowing them --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: getting use to not having them around; regretting that I didnt tell them how I feel about them (saying I love you enough) --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: let them know that they are loved and cared a lot about --[My Mother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: have become a stronger for going through this experience; I grew up instantly at the age of 15 and am very responsible and often looked to from my family for support and encouragement --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell her I loved her one last time while i hugged her --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Christmas comes around, I wear the same perfume she does, Mother's Day, when i think about all the things that she is/was not physically there for --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I'd talk to her more and let know that i loved her more --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... why do I have to live without my mom and other people my age back talk and don't appreciate their's --Religious Affiliation: Baptist --Regarding the FUNERAL: there were a lot of people there that loved her and a lot of people there that loved me and was there to show their support --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: she comes to me in my dreams (seems like when I have a lot of stress) on me and talks to me and gives me advice and encouragement --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: knowing that her memory is still alive in me so she will "always live" in me - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Lack of Awareness ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 25 08:16:31 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Brother, 10 ago. Cause of Death: pneumonia; Aged: 3. --Details: no - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: not living anymore, leaving this world of existance --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was 7. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... it was someone i new very well, it was my brother --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: i never expected it. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: how to get through it --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: i became a stronger person --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: friends --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: not being able to get past it --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: let the person know your there to talk at anytime --[My Brother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: moved on --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i tried dealing with it in wrong ways --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: the experience was so surreal and i wasn't in the right fram of mind that laughing seemed almost normal --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say i love you and goodbye --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: i'm not --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt really guilty - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? Illicit Drugs crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Upbringing ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 24 19:29:13 2000 F19 in , =Wales= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: Student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of relative, 5 yrs ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 80. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: teh ceasing of the body to function in any way --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I sad but relieved as they had been il and their suffering, and those close to them, were no longer suffering. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... Great Aunt dying os lung cancer --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: feeling angery that I was shut out as one of the children. --What I think my (Wales) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it should be offered when the quality of life of a terminally ill person is no longer of a dignifiied standard --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: it ends suffering and restores dignity --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: friends and conselling --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: guilt that I was glad their suffering was over. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say ggodbye. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: none - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? The Funeral Not be allowed to go due to age. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 24 17:06:23 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Friend ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of friend, 1 year ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: almost 17. --Details: She'd been sick for about 2 years before. She went into remission, but I guess they didn't catch some of the cancer still in her. When I found out she was sick again she only had six weeks to live. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when you stop having to worry about food and water and relationships. It is a state of absolute peace. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I I was terrified. It was something i couldn't understand and didn't know how to protect myself of my loved-ones from. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My dad's best friend got cancer when I was about 10. He had three very young children. I remember seeing my dad so sad and lonely and thinking that one of my own parents could die. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: I felt guilty for not being a better friend. --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: It may be a finality, but it is not something you need to prepare yourself for. Live life well and death won't be something to fear or fret over. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: when my friend died everyone who loved her was at least allowed to move on. For years everyone was in the suspence of worrying over her and waiting for something to happen. Afterwards we got to be sad and then miss her and then heal a little. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: a dream I had. I am not religious and I don't particularly think there is something after death, but I had a dream of my friend that makes me question that. She came to me and told me not to be sad or to feel guilty. She said she was always alive as long as I kept her alive (in my mind). It was extremely comforting. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: I kept thinking of how crushed her family was and how they didn't deserve that. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities It was mostly just time that helped me get over it. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 23 16:22:46 2000 F44 in tulelake, cal. =u.s.a.= Name: sue hamrick Email: <sque=at=yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: self - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Husband, 4 months ago. Cause of Death: heart attack; Aged: 46. --Details: we had just returned home from his parents 50th wedding anniversary and he died in his chair watching tv. 15 minutes after we arrived home. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a devistating feeling of hopelessness and loss. and fear takes over your life. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...mother died of cancer then my father shot himself 4 months later --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: talking about it to everyone who would listen --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: fear and helplessness - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Mid-Life How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat Oct 21 09:17:28 2000 F16 in watford, hertfordshire =england= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of friend, 3 ago. Cause of Death: drowning; Aged: 30. --Details: He went for a swim, a boat went by and the waves pulled him under...I couldn't see where he was and went in to find him. He was found a few days later. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life, when the body stop function and that person can no longer physically interact with the living. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I wasn't too bothered. --That first time, how it happened was My Grandfater died after being ill for some time. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: that he wasn't here anymore and I couldn't talk to him. --What I think my (england) culture needs to better learn about death is: that it is not bad. And also that it happens. A lot. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that people die so that there is not too much over population. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: myself and my knowledge that I too will die and am not alone in the whole death and dying thing --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: not hearing their voice. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I couldn't find him in the water and didn' tunderstand how he could have disappeared so quickly. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him how much I cared about him. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: try and save him. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that he died so young without finishing anything. --Religious Affiliation: catholic - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Other: I have no problem with death. I accept that people will die. It doesn't matter who they are. And has nothing to do with religion. Death is not a bad thing. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 20 20:45:17 2000 F18 in Eugene, Oregon =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Yahoo web search for "psychology" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of friend, less than 1 yr ago. Cause of Death: Old age; Aged: 92. --Details: I worked at a nursing home and got to be good friends with a woman who became almost like a grandmother to me. She died of old age. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of your earth life. The end of your body. But, your soul goes to another place. An afterlife in heaven or hell where your soul goes on to live forever. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very young and didn't understand what death was. But, for some reason I still cried about it, it was very sad to me even though I had such little knowledge about it. --That first time, how it happened was My grandpa had died 15 years before I was born, and I asked my grandma where grandpa was and she explained it to me. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: That the person that died was really going on to a better place where she would not have to go through any more pain, and that made it seem not so bad. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: That it is not the end. That your soul lives on in some way. That death should not be feared because it is inevitable. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: That the lady I knew died and then did not have to live in pain any longer. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: My co-workers that worked at the nursing home with me where the lady had died. And also the other residents that knew her. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: That they are no longer here and that I didn't get to physically tell her good-bye... --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: That even if the person cannot respond to you, even if they seem to be in another place, they are there and they can feel your presence and you need to be there for them because no one should have to die alone. --[My friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: comforted her while she was so close to death, without bursting into tears or losing control of myself. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: It was over and life just went on so quickly. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it was all of the crazy emotions I felt mixed together and all I knew to do was laugh. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: say good-bye. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Be with her the last couple days of her life. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Something happens that reminds me of her, or if I see someone else suffering like her, or if I meet someone like her. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that she had to die because she was such a good person. Why did God need to take such a good person away? --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt a kind of happiness mixed with sadness. I was glad that my friend went to a better place, but I was sad because that meant she was truly gone for good. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? People's Stories, etc. By hearing other people's stories and what happened to them and how they dealt with it , really helps me out a lot. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Avoiding Everything I avoid death a lot, but it only makes it effect me worse in the long-run. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 19 08:16:15 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an absolut kathastrophe if you are unprepared --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...death of older relatives --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how much more i try to use my live in a deep and meaningfull way --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: that its the most natural thing as for all living beeing is going towards these passing stage --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my tiebtan lama --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: to really let go - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Religion/Clergy What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? The Funeral ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 18 22:46:00 2000 F16 in perth, western australia =australia= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Looked up 'tests' - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 9 years ago. Cause of Death: heart condition; Aged: 37. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when someone can no longer breathe and their brain can no longer function. their body stops working and so we bury them or burn them. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was seven years old and didn't really know much about it i don't think anyway. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My brother and i found my father dead in our bath tub. He died from a heart attack --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: Lot's of people were upset and my mum wasn't too good for awhile --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: It gave me alot of knowledge and put me through experience at an early age --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: nanna, friends (adult) --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: I was so young and didn't live with my mum at the time --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: am okay and was brought up fine without him --The most confusing point of death for me was when: he was going to hospital and i wasn't sure if he was dead or not --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: talk to all the people who were our friends --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: get over it and not have any psychological problems --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: how much i miss him --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i fight with my mum and just wish he was still here, or if i talk about it with her or even a song --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I think i would still be living in Adelaide and i may have been brought up more strict but more sociable --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... what am i supposed to do now??? --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could turn back time --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was upset heaps --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing --Religious Affiliation: none --Regarding the FUNERAL: A lot of people cared about him --The weirdest part of it all to me was: knowing i wouldn't see him again --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I had quite a few dreams just after his death about him coming back and me telling him that it was wrong --Any thoughts about your own death?: i would be so scared - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Passage of Time because i was so young i just healed i guess What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Memories step-dad - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I thought it did make me think and re discover how i was feeling ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 18 10:45:15 2000 M19 in Queens, New York City, NY =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: Developmental Psychology - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, 10 months ago. Cause of Death: gunshot; Aged: 22. --Details: he was an innocent passerby - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: when we cease to interact with others. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I cried, it was my grandfather, we were close. --That first time, how it happened was grandfather died of polio --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the shock of losing a friend so suddenly, reminds us that we can all die any moment. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: it is simply another phase of life --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: my grandfather(my first experience) was no longer in pain. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: seeing the body. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: seeing it. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: what was important to him was that someone take care of his daughter. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i had to accept his death at the hospital. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: tell him i would take care of his family. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: control my temper and not create another death. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: i began to cry, it's not often that i cry but his death was difficult for me, it struck me as odd to cry, but it is so natural when someone dies. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: grieving for months, i understand the pain of losing a son or husband, but death completes life, to grieve is to be selfish. We grieve for the LOSS of the person from our lives, not the person himself. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that he died needlessly --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could track down his killer and get revenge --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I began to feel an intense desire for revenge. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: support for the family. --Religious Affiliation: Roman Catholic --Regarding the FUNERAL: a media frenzy --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': he appeared in a dream and persuaded me that death was a stage of life and revenge on kis killer would be nothing more than perpetuating a cycle. --RE: Near Death Experiences: In the same instance i was hit with a bullet, i had argued with my girlfriend(now my fiance) that day, i thought of her and my parents. On the way to the hospital i was so sure i would die i could not think of anything but how badly i wished to confess my lies and sins to my loved ones, something i did when i got out of the hospital. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I am no longer afraid to die, i live me life in the open, death can take nothing away from me. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I visited the scene of the crime weekly and cried, in the middle of the sidewalk. I may have looked a fool but it helped me get closure. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? i walk by the scene everyday, it still scares me to this day but it reminds me to make the most of life since it is fleeting. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? my girlfriend and i got engaged two days after the funeral, we felt it was time to continue our lives together since our friend who died did not get to accomplish this. I am also closer to his mother now, we babysit his daughter two to three times a week. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Rage What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Helping Other People cope - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - as i stated this reconfirmed by belief that death is a state of life. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 18 08:40:03 2000 M26 in Toronto, Ontario =Canada= Name: Darrin Email: <dmilosz=at=hotmail.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] just messing around at work - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Teacher - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 12-14yrs ago. Cause of Death: alcohol; Aged: 55-60??. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an expiration of bodily functions caused by old age, disease, accident, homicide. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... my grandfather died in an alcohol related accident. Didn't know him very well, but my first experience with death none the less. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness Death is a natural thing, for the most part, that all will deal with through out life and themselves one day. Death in general has little or no effect on me, which is scary. When someone dies I feel as if I SHOULD feel something but often do not. It was their time??? I am not a religious persin at all. Time expires, the body breaks down. I just hope it is wuick with me. No long painfull illness or mental deterieration. I guess the young dieing for no apparent reason has the biggest effect on me. But I have not experienced it first hand. I have often shed tears for strangers who have lost someone young in their lives. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? People's Stories, etc. talking with friends and different experiences with the topic would help me the most... but at the same time can hinder the dealing aspect, because you feel that your "death" is personal and individual to YOUR feelings. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 17 16:46:45 2000 M in Thorn, co =usa= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: cusy svc - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Uncle, 1 month ago. Cause of Death: liver failure; Aged: 50. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather died while i was at work - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Illicit Drugs What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Guilt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun Oct 15 02:11:59 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of cat, 2 yrs ago. Cause of Death: sickness; Aged: 11 months. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: going away eternally, no one else know where that place is, or how far. It's a symbol of someone resting and no longer suffering. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was sad and mad --That first time, how it happened was My pet cat. Died of sickness. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: my mum crying and everyone avoid talking about it --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: be more open about it. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that my cat is no longer in pain --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: time --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: i can't see her anymore --[My cat's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: deal with it --The most confusing point of death for me was when: could i do something to prevent it? --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: see my cat more - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Guilt ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 12 22:07:33 2000 F19 in Larchmont, New York =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Yahoo - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: English Major - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 12yrs ago. Cause of Death: Liver Disease; Aged: about 50. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: a part of nature. Nothing can stop it. I know that sounds dramatic, but it's true. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... my father died when I was seven years old, from a liver disease. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that you have to talk about it, as soon as possible. And, with professional. Never let anything get bottled up. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my therapists. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: starting to forget. After a while the memories and the fantasies start to blur. It's hard to tell what actually happened and what I wish had. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: I have had one dream about my father. I don't remember the dream, but I do remember waking up crying. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I never leave or let my mother or sister leave the house with out saying good bye and I love you. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Prescription Drugs What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 12 11:31:41 2000 F27 in Rutland, Vermont =USA= Name: Anne Email: <senorapeas2000=at=yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: former morturay science student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: 1) On Death & Dying 2) Lessons On Life 3) Tuesdays With Morrie Recommended Reading-- Writers: 1) Elisabeth Kubler Ross 2) Morrie Schwartz 3) Mitch Albom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Great GrandFather, 1 yr ago. Cause of Death: old age; Aged: 91. --Details: I spoke to him the day before he died. He and I had a very special bond. He could barely speak the day I called as he was short of breath. He asked me if I could come home. I started to cry because I couldn't afford a plane ticket. He told me it was okay and not to worry. He thanked me for calling. That next morning, I was up extra early 4:00 a.m. and I called the hospital to see if he was okay. He had died 10 minutes before I called. I was the first one to hear of his passing. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: as natural as birth. It is when our body is no longer able to cope with an illness or an accidental infliction or age and it shuts down. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I Was very nervous. I was petrified of ghosts and I was so afraid after I saw my Uncle Joe in his casket. I kept thinking he would come back to visit me. --That first time, how it happened was It was my uncle on my fathers side. There had been a family argument and there was a struggle with a weapon. During the struggle, he was shot in the neck. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The pain that it felt. My heart felt so empty and I felt like there was nothing I could do to stop crying. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: COPING SKILLS. The Italians are WAY TOO DRAMATIC and they don't like to talk about anything. They think ignoring it makes it go away. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I met my husband the week my great-grandfather died. I am certain that he put us together. There are too many reasons as to why this all makes sense. I was in another relationship and I asked him to grace me with someone more understanding, someone who would love me no matter what. My husband is the most loveable, caring and understanding person I have ever met. He is a clone of my great-grandfather! --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Just talking and being able to express my emotions due to the loss of my greatgrandfather. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Losing the man who taught me how to cope with everything that I have ever come in contact with. I lost my only father figure. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: ALWAYS TELL THEM YOU LOVE THEM NO MATTER WHAT! I don't care how hard it is for you to say. I am SO HAPPY that I told my great-grandfather that I loved him. He died knowing that. --[My Great GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: Keep him alive in memories. I talk about him all the time, I learn to laugh about his sense of humor and the fun we had. It keeps me content in knowing that he is still with me in some small way. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I wasn't sure if I should come home or not. I could not afford 2 trips, one for the week of dying and one after the fact. I had to pick which was more important. So, I called him on the phone, talked to him; then came home for his services. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: I was laughing at how my family underestimated my ability to stand tall and give a speech. They think I am stupid and then they were blown away when they heard my eulogy. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: come home that week anyway. I wish I could have seen him before he died. My grandmother said "Oh well you wouldn't have wanted to see him like that". How could she judge? She has no coping skills and maybe SHE didn't want to see him that way. I wanted to see him so that he knew I was there but because of finances I had to call him instead. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: Stand strong and give a wonderful eulogy to my great grandfather. I also served his wish and I was the only female pallbearer. It was his request. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I somehow managed to express all of my emotions all at once. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: Standard ritual. We instead celebrated his wake the way he would have wanted it. Sadness because we would miss him but with a little humor to make people comfortable. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: I recall that last conversation I had with him the day before he died when I heard his little voice ask me if I could come home. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... He would still be here to talk me through some of lifes trivial issues. At 91 he had a bright answer for everything. I trusted him because he knew. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... to lose the most important person in my life who has given me so much strength. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Cry and wish my heart would stop just for a moment so that I can have some peace. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I tried to remain strong for others but did not neglect my own grieving. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: I wasn't here to receive any help from the medical community. It was direcetd more toward my great grandmother and my grandmother. Honestly, I don't think that they had a clue what it was like for a 91 year old woman to lose someone that she just spent the last 74 years of her life with. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: a celebration of his life and being able to know that he will live on in my heart. --Religious Affiliation: catholic --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: I feel that everyone sees death in their own way as learned by the Egyptian practices as well as the Mohabe tribe. They each have their own practices as we do and I feel that though it all does transcend, we all need to do what is necessary to get through the loss. --Regarding the FUNERAL: the funeral homes flexibility with me in playing a significant role in his arrangements. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: wanting to spend time alone with him while he was dead and talking to him. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : Inability to function alone, comatose, shortness of breath, morphine drip being administered --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it is important to be by their side and have some personal strength. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I am unaware of this --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I am not sure what issues are unresolved but I would like to know what I can do now that he has put my husband and I together. Sometimes I am unsure of how to handle this special marriage. Did he want me to work harder? My husband has a head injury and is not really able to hold a job. THough he looks and acts normal, he cannot function in a regular job. He got a college degree but cannot apply it because he cannot handle multiple job tasks. --If we were to visit one last conversation... I would ask him what I am going to do with my life and tell him I need guidance. I would tell him that I need to know what the right move is because I am so lost right now. I know he would have all the right answers. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: On Christmas Eve, I was crying saying that I wish he could have been with us for Christmas. It made me so sad and I could not seem to forget my great grandfather. That Christmas Eve night, I went to bed and awoke to someone tucking the covers tightly around my shoulders and rubbing their hand on my head. They were saying my name. When I opened my eyes, there was a figure quickly jumping away in the room. I could see the back of their head but they were leaping quickly and there was an outline around them of a swooshy light. I turned on the light and there was no one there but I know that there was someone in the room because I watched them leave. I recall feeling solace but confusion. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: Always make sure everyone you love knows it. Don't ever assume anything! I wouldn't want to die thinking no one loved me, and I wouldn't want anyone to die feeling unloved. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? Wow.....just like I said above, my husband and I met the same week he died. I was in another relationship and it was horribly mentally abusive. I asked him for some peace and someone who would treat me the way he did and love me for who I am. I asked him to guide me to someone old fashioned who believed in one love. Paul is all of that and he is a clone of my great grandfather. THough I see Paul as his own person, the similarities are unreal. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Helping Other People cope I attended mortuary school after high school to better understand What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I reached out to my great-grandmother because in 74 years of living with her very best friend, she was alone. I helped her to cope with being alone. I called her everyday and made sure that she was ok. I wish the rest of the family had helped me. They all seemed to be too interested in themselves and called me a glutton for going up to the casket as many times as I did. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - It was a nice way to express my emotions. Great experience. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? How did their emotional coping compare with that of the rest of the family and were they made fun of for their way of coping? How did that make them feel? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 12 09:50:52 2000 F40 in Monticello, WI =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Other: ] searching for supra-nuclear palsy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 4 yrs ago. Cause of Death: complications from chemo treatments for stomach/liver cancer; Aged: 62. --Details: It was very quick (to us). My father thought he was having a heart attack, they determined he had 3 blocked arteries and did angioplasty. A week later he was having pain again, it was found that his (original)pain came from advanced stomach cancer that had spread to his liver. He was given 6-18 months, possibly extended by chemo. His first chemo treatment was done and he died from profound sepsis within 9 days. From the "heart attack" to the death was less than a month. My mother, 2 brothers and I were devastated. I was 6 months pregnant with my first child. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...I was just 5, my paternal grandfather died, I didn't understand what it meant. WE weren't particularly close so didn't seem to impact. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The absolute emptiness and helplessness. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: My daughter was born after my father died. She is a gift that could not be with me if people didn't die. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Not realizing what a hole has been left in my being. That no one else can feel what you feel. For the 30 seconds that I saw the nurse walking toward us (my mother, 1 brother and I)in the waiting room with a box of Kleenex in her hand, KNOWING something they didn't know, before the nurse actually said the words. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... My dad would want to see my daughter all the time. He would relish in her exuberance for life. There is a lot of him in her. (or are the 2 most significant events in my life tied forever together?) --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that he never got to be around my daughter. Although my daughter (who is only 4) assures me that she did see her "First Grandpa" before she left heaven and he watches over her now. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: I was mad at them for a long time. I wanted to blame someone for my father's death. Now I champion them for sustaining my daughter's life. Mostly, I realize what a vast and imperfect science it involves. --Regarding the FUNERAL: How you find out how much & many people felt something for the person who died. Watching big tough guys cry like babies. Friends of my own empathizing. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: My parents signed living wills. They didn't really understand the magnitude of them. When we took my dad for the last time to the hospital, the doctor tried to impress upon us how grave the situation was and what those papers meant. DNR, it was better explained and my dad still took that option, although I don't think we would have chosen it for him. --Any thoughts about your own death?: Sometimes I am very afraid, because I don't want to leave my daughter and the feelings she will have to deal with. But hopefully it won't be soon. Other times I feel it will be a relief from the stress, inanities of this life, but not yet...... - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Lack of Awareness What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Ability to Forget - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - Getting some things out about my father's death helps. I know this and do it piece by piece, here & there. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 11 20:19:15 2000 F35 in Palos Verdes, CA =US= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Yahoo! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: The Bible, Life after Life, The Power of Positive Thinking, Embraced by the Light Recommended Reading-- Writers: Dr. Mooney, Norman Vincent Peele - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 2 ago. Cause of Death: old age; Aged: 84. --Details: He chose to die. His son died of a stroke 3 months before him. He was already old, and getting feeble, but after my uncle died, my grandfather packed his bags (with a newly pressed pair of overalls, and a new shirt, no shoes), paid for his funeral, and willed himself to death. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of the physical body, and the beginning of life in a spiritual world. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I noticed that it was natural, and everyone was sad, but somehow at peace. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my neighbor was an older man, and he died. I remember being at the receiving, where his dead body was in a coffin in his house. This would have been in about 1967 or 1968 and I was 3. That's all I remember, but it seemed to be a somewhat peaceful experience without a lot of emotion, just curiosity. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: being unable to control my emotions. --What I think my (US) culture needs to better learn about death is: nothing, they handle death very well. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: I believe that death has a gift, an entrance into eternal life, freedom for the spirit from a tired body. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my belief in life after death, and Jesus. I know I'll see them again and it'll never end in the spirit world. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the temporary inability to connect in the spirit world. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: I've never been there when someone died. --[My GrandFather's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: felt his spirit visit me before he left. I was meditating a lot at the time, and he came to say Goodbye. I woke up and told my husband the next day that my Grandfather told me to go to his funeral and that he would die today. I KNEW at the exact moment he died. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: no confusion. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: didnt' have that urge. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: I have no regrets. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: talk to him on the phone, send a card, and a stuffed animal so he knew I was thinking of him. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: he wasn't there in his body. He had "gone home." It was also weird when the funeral director said the coffin is so tightly sealed that the body will look the same 50 years from now. It's gross to think we put this cold, dead body in the groud. It seemed very strange and unnecessary. I still wonder why we don't cremate people. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: showing the cold, dead, lifeless body. Yuck. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: can't recall now. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... no thoughts on this. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... not really. --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could doesn't really get that difficult. I've dealt with the feelings. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt connected to my own mortality even more. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: no feeling on this. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: didn't have that experience. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: everything, it meant a promise was being fulfilled and he'd be with his family in Heaven. --Religious Affiliation: Current - Alcoholics Anonymous 12 steps which includes an openeness to all religions. I believe in Jesus personally, and Heaven, but I've studied other beliefs including Muslim, Hindu, Buddism, and Metaphysical books. Past- Southern Baptist --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: can't relate to the question. --Regarding MONEY: can't relate. --Regarding the FUNERAL: how ceremony is important and gives you a place to say, it's over, move on. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: uhhhhmmmm? --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : going downhill, and the spirit wills itself to go. A good example was Princess Diana, she really wanted to die, she tried to commit suicide, she seemed to really want it, so did my Grandfather. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: no reflection --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': he was visited by his Mother, Father and family memebers. He also visited me before he left. He had his hands up in the air, as if he were reaching for them when he died. --RE: Near Death Experiences: this has happened with me, my grandfather came to see me. I also had this experience with a friends husband, I knew he died, I could feel it. He died in an accident, but I knew at the exact moment. I've had lots of other experiences with "KNOWING" before people die. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: No unresolved issues. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: haven't had this, but I sensed that my grandfather had fully moved on 3 months after his death. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I now have a trust, and it includes a living will which gives instructions to unplug me, let me die if I'm in a bad condition. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I'm not afraid. I know I'll die. I feel it'll be okay. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: putting their picture up to remember them in a positive way. Keeping their memory alive. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? no --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? I'm now becoming friends with my 87 year old neighbor. I would have never paid old people much attention, but I know they're valuable. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Very Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Religion/Clergy I believe in an afterlife. I believe in Jesus Christ and heaven. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Denial Youth, I believed that I was immortal. At 35, I now realize my life in the physical world will end one day. --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: I feel very protective of my 87 year old neighbor. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - Fun. I enjoy talking about death. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 11 18:15:01 2000 F14 in Watseka, Illinois =USA= Name: Natalie Lattimer Email: <djsuicide99=at=yahoo.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: 8th grader Recommended Reading-- Writers: Edger Allan Poe - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Neice, 1 month ago. Cause of Death: Beaten to death; Aged: 2 yrs. --Details: Her mother had to go to work and she had no one to watch Kloie but her friend ( boy freind) was there and he said she would watch her so the mother left and 3 hours later the boyfriend beat her and took her to the hospital saying she had fallen Kloie died that night of internal injuries and a disconected spinal cord, the killer has now got the death penalty - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: The beginning of a better life, the bodies stop but their slouls live on in a different place it basically its the beginning of life --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was 12 my cousin was in a drunk driving accident --That first time, how it happened was Well my best friend's neice Kloie was beaten to death, and i knew Kloie since she was 3 months old, and we loved her like a daughter it was the first time i ever experianced death but it made it harder when Kloie was only 2 yrs old --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: staying up at night crying till i smelt her ( like lylacs) and hearing her voice saying that she was okay --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that everybody dies. and that death comes to those like a theif in the night --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that they are in a safer happier place and that we will see them again --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: the thing that helped me was a boy named jon he was there for me and after kloie died we came to be dating and another thing that helped me was jenny we both cried together --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: knowing that they are gone and the wont ever come back --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: tell them that u love them and its ok to go --[My Neice's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: loved her soooo much --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: when i laughe i cry cause i feel sooo guilty --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be there to babysit kloie --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: tell her that i loved her one last time --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i look at her picture or just try to agnoladge that shes gone --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... i would be sooo happy it would be sooo right --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... its not fair she never did any wrong --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could hear her voice or to tell her i love her --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was so depressed --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: god is my life --Religious Affiliation: i was catholic but now i am christian --Regarding the FUNERAL: how many people's lives kloie touched --The weirdest part of it all to me was: knowing that they are gone or the fact that the actuall body is sitting there infront of u --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': when i was sleeping i heard a laugh and i woke up and i saw kloie in my room she whispered " im ok " --If we were to visit one last conversation... knowing that she knows that i love her --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: it was reasuring --Any thoughts about your own death?: im not afraid to die i never was and never will be i just want my friends and loved ones to know that not to cry and that im always here - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying When Kloie died i turned to other things, i was depressed i cried i started doing drugs, i turned to the wrong things but then i though would Kloie want me doing this but now i still cry every night i dont think ill ever get over it What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities Every body was like " she wasnt even part of your family" or they would say " its been a month now already " but that just makes me sadder cause ill never get over it she was my life ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 11 11:34:53 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Other: ] i was looking for intresting test for my self, this made me curious.... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: as the river runs - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grand father died and i was very closed to him. i dreamt about him a day before and i said goodbye in the dream. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities books and films and asking questions and thinking about it while trying to figure out what is deadth mean? What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 10 14:13:31 2000 F18 in lower burrell, pa =usa= Name: angela Email: <akuzmirek=at=hotmail.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: in H.S. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 9 ago. Cause of Death: natual causes; Aged: . --Details: he died on my last day of school in second grade, my mom picked me up and she was crying and i remember her saying "pappy isnt ever going to be sick again" - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: death is when god chooses someone to take off the earth and he takes everything out of htem and leaves just the body and so we bury it under ground --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was sooooo devestated and i didnt know why they picked my grandpap --That first time, how it happened was my grandfather --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the boy in the grade below me died this year the day before the first day of school. it was sooo sad --What I think my (usa) culture needs to better learn about death is: its not totally a bad thing cause they are taken to a better place, but they will be missed alot --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: theres no more suffereing --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: i watch alot of movies dealing with death cause they are like so real and they make you think --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: how much i would miss them and how i didnt show my appreation for them anough --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: sometimes laughing just gets your mind off it and seems to make everything ok for a second --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: show people how much i appreciated them --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: spend the last few months living wtih my grandfather cause i got to know him better --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: a few months ago, one of my coworkers died unexpectablly, and now sometimes when i come into work i expect to see her bright smile, and shes just not there... it makes me feel like crying --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... it seems like all the good people die --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I when i was a freshmen a girl in my swim class died in a car accident. it was like so unreal, i just kept thinking people my age dont die, not people i know... --Religious Affiliation: catholic/christian - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? The Funeral i hate funurals cause i hate seeing everyone crying it makes everything worse ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 10 13:32:13 2000 F44 in St. Louis, MO =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Best Friend, 3 ago. Cause of Death: work accident; Aged: 37. --Details: was getting ready to come back to area after being away for years and died in accident before he could come back - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of conscious thought --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I felt a deep loss, a part now missing, and I cried very, very hard for the loss --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my grandfather passed away (I was very close to him) --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The total loss of never ever seeing this person again on this level --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: less ritual and better understanding --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: to take one day at a time and appreciate the time you have --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my memories of the happiness this person brought to my life and others --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: knowing that they were closed up in a coffin --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: take with you the part of themselves they offer and give all of yourself freely for them to take with them --The most confusing point of death for me was when: Right after I heard about it.... it seemed wrong --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: see him again --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: find him and talk to him before he was lost to me forever --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: I truly realized he was gone to me in the physical sence --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: He comes to me in my dreams,I realize how much I miss him --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I think that we would be together as husband and wife and probably fight because we knew each other so well but would be happy --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... That he is gone so young before I could see him --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could Shut off the dreams --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was very very sorry I hadn't gotten to see him in person one more time... wasted time and wasted opportunities --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: No organized religion can replace what i feel in my heart --Religious Affiliation: Catholic - Do not attend chuch --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: Like the correct beleif --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: I don't think issues will be resolved. We had too much unfinished business and I believe that is why I still have d --If we were to visit one last conversation... I miss you and i'm sorry we are apart now. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: The night my friend died the radio came on in another room that was not turned on. the next day i found out he had passed away. I knew for sure that it was him --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: wills, living wills, --Any thoughts about your own death?: that i loved life and will see you again on another plain - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System the hope of something beyond life What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - talking about my feeling of my loss ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 9 23:19:24 2000 F23 in whittier, california =usa= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] class assign to do an on-line exper. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: nursing home/ psych student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 3 yrs ago. Cause of Death: respiratory commpmication; Aged: 78. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...it was my grandfather. I think I was in the 5th grade. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: It brought my family closer together. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my husband. Just his presence by my side made me feel better --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: sadness. Knowing that person would no longer physically be in my life. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I questioned when that person was "REALLY" gone. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: ask my grandmother about her life and to get her know her better. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there when my grandmother passed. It was a beautiful experience to have my family experience this all together. It really unified us. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i smell perfumes that she liked. Also when I wear the jewelry that she gave me. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... that people sometimes have to suffer. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I become sad and begin my mourning precess. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: satisfaction that we were able to get such compassionate help. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: happiness that my grandmother was in a better place. That she was with God and she was not suffering anymore. --Religious Affiliation: Catholic --Regarding MONEY: some of my relatives acted selfishly. Others wanted to do evetthing they could to make the funeral nice. --Regarding the FUNERAL: there were a lot of people there who loved my grandmother. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 9 01:07:26 2000 F22 in Hamilton, IL =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: machine operator/nursing student - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of dog, 2yrs ago. Cause of Death: he was put down; Aged: 12 yrs. --Details: It was so sad. He was super loyal. He was really happy that day. He seemed to have no idea. I remember going to the Dairy Queen and buying him a dish of vanilla soft serve. He loved that. I spoon fed it to him and pet him and talked to him. I felt bad because I hadn't been around him much after I moved out of my parents. I cried alot. I was angry with my parents for not appreciating what a great dog he was. They had a younger dog that was about a year that they pampered, and toward the end of Bear's life they sort of treated him as if he were a burden because he couldn't get around well, and he seemed to not hear or see as well. Then they bawled their eyes out after it was over. I felt like they didn't realize how great and loyal he was until after he was gone. I still miss him a whole lot. He was a great dog. He was a family member. I still get teary eyed when I think about him. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an ending to one cahpter of life, but an opening to another. You go to a better place. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I didn't know them well. They were family members that I didn't really know. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...I didn't want to go to Texas for the summer and leave my precious cat behind. I would be 13 hours away from her. When I got back she was dead. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: I'm unsure. I've never been to a funeral. The only visistation that I have been to was for an aunt I didn't know. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: to help children deal with. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: if it ends someones misery and pain. That is so much more comforting thatn watching someone suffer. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: i've never really had to deal with it. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: It's never happened. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Crying and Crying What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Family's Insensitivities - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - I have never really dealt with death unless it's been a pet. My pets are so important to me that it's still sad. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun Oct 8 20:47:30 2000 M48 in Chicago, Illinois =USA= Name: Zack Stiglicz Email: <SZpro=at=aol.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - looked up key words death and transcendence - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: filmmaker/college instructor - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Mother, 22 yrs ago. Cause of Death: heart attack; Aged: 61. --Details: My mother and father had retired to San Diego from Ohio. I was 26 and had my first full-time teaching job (San Francisco State University). My parents were dancing to the song "Sentimental Journey" at a Valentine's Day retirement park party. My mother said to my father: "I finally taught you how to dance." They sat down to eat and she passed out. They could not revive her. She died suddenly of a massive heart attack. I was undone. In many ways she was my best friend. I felt bullets striking my soul for about three years, and, then, the forgetfulness of time slowly gave relief. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: ...the greatest mystery for nearly all of us, the greatest fear for many of us as well, and that which is longed for more than anything by many and perhaps most of us as our time here grows old. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I ...was curious... and after that fearful. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...grandparent... mother's father --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: not sure what you mean by "this most recent death" --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: that we don't know how to deal with it creatively. Look at Tibet... --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Death is on my mind so much - it has influenced by creative expression as an artist/filmmaker - let's leave it at that. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: time... the passage of time... and the cooperation of my artistic impulses... --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: The hardest thing actually involved another death... of an aunt... My father and I both thought we saw her face smile (in the casket)... It was most likely a weird, shared hallucination... busy work of tired minds... but it remains the strangest and most frightening experience of my life. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Actually I have only been present at the death (euthanasia) of my 14 year old lhasa apso this last January. I held the animal in my arms; she trusted me utterly. When they gave her the injection, she howled as if reaching for the moon. It was extremely moving. Her body became so unutterably light after she passed. I was completely overcome with the feeling that I wanted to be able to "hold" other parts of life and the world with the same tenderness that I had brought to her last moments. I wish we could "hold/behold" humans in need in this way... but our human bodies are so cumbersome... --[My dog's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: see above --The most confusing point of death for me was when: ... --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: Death has made me smile... but only the carved skulls at the "Skull Rack" of Chichen Itza in the Yucatan (where I shot an experimental film in 1996) brought be close to laughter... a perverse, uncanny, aware laughter. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: Actually this question makes me remember how I made a point of calling my father (I lived in Massachusetts at the time, he in San Diego) the night before he died unexpectedly. I walked all the way across the campus where I taught just to get to a phone (I had none at the time - it was a rural area and I liked my solitude) - and it was raining... but something carried me into that final conversation... he indicated he felt a little ill... he had no idea he would be dead the next day... our conversation allowed for something of a reconciliation that I realize, in retrospect, was really quite wonderful. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: see above --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: ... --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: ...thinking the thought: "he/she is better off now... he/she suffered so much after all." That attitude strikes me as self-serving and terribly condescending. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Actually, the feelings associated with such reflectiveness have grown so strangely over the years... there are so many ways of crying... the tears that come now are filled with comprehension that those of earlier years did not contain. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... They're there waiting for me/us and it won't be a pretty reunion. The dead are jealous and they will realize revenge. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... ...I don't see any of it as a question of fairness. The gods... God... god behind god, etc.... all the forces that I believe are operating "The Show" are simply playing out their games. We can't even beg for "fairness"... It's the gnostic in me... --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could disappear... but I know I'm stuck with THE WHOLE BOG DRAMA myself. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I This is so different from one death to another. It would take a book to unfold the varieties of my personal experience. Isn't it that way with everyone? --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: They don't really care... It's not "managed care".. It's "managed death"... I'm sure they didn't do much to revive my poor old father when he passed out at the Veterans Hospital outside San Diego... too expensive... --Regarding HOSPICE etc: ... --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: Nothing useful mentally... I'm haunted by my Catholic upbringing. (The only relief comes from the fact that all the fear of death has made me a more interesting artist). I'm a gnostic... my Church is in the ruins of Chichen Itza... the ruins of... etc. etc. etc. --Religious Affiliation: Catholic in the past... long distant past... then on again/off again agnostic/anti-theist for many years... now a poetic-spiritualist-gnostic. Sorry... look somewhere else for your comfortable Presbyterians... I have a unique point of view... or so it seems in this cookie cutter religious world we live in... --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: like "something wonderful" that is there - out there - in here, next to the heart - but most of us won't even begin to comprehend because we (and I include myself) are so blinded by prejudiced, tired, old, unquestioned views of life and death... --Regarding MONEY: I ended up with an inheritance which was an much a burden as a blessing. --Regarding the FUNERAL: I'm glad my parents' final affairs were managed most privately. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: ...that I think about it all the time... --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : ...premonitions... listen to the voices inside... --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: I don't know if I have anything to offer others, except to say - try to turn the horror into something mindful, something artful, something terribly tender and wise. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': I think they've been afraid to get in touch. Ask me later. --RE: Near Death Experiences: Nada... --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: Time has offered understanding. I'm amazed, but it has. What I fear greatly are the deaths and dying of tomorrow. --If we were to visit one last conversation... ... --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: Nada... wish it would happen... Oh I have dreams of them, but as they were, it seems... or beyond any issues of their death. My dreams do not coincide with the realm of death. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: Respect. Treat them with Respect. We throw the dying away, as if they're garbage. They are Great Mysteries as they start their passage... We'll never comprehend this until we being the Slide. --Any thoughts about your own death?: I think about it daily, hourly, by the minute perhaps. I have lived knowing I'm HIV+ since 1985. I have many advanced degrees in "Understanding my Mortality." And, yet... it seems as it was with Socrates... the more I think I know, the more I realize that I, in truth, "do Nothing know." --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: my art --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? I try to behave as if every minute is the last. Be advised... I try... I don't succeed. --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? ... just with parts of myself. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Other: I transformed the experience into fantasies What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death fear from overhearing my mother talk about dreaming of the death before its occurrence --As for reaching out helping others now as part of my healing process: Again, I became an artist... I probably did this to cope with fears of Death and Dying. - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - This was really a nice experience. The questions strike me as thoughtful and caring. They aided my thinking about death. Thanks. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? Sorry.. it's late and I have no solid recommendations. I think your questions are quite good as they stand. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun Oct 8 07:32:36 2000 M32 in , =Wales= Name: Alex - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: Care of adolecents - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: The next step on the ladder --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I Could not feel anything but elation, and happy for them. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My recently born sister died of hart troubles at three months old. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: The feeling of inevitability. --What I think my (Wales) culture needs to better learn about death is: It is nothing to be afraid of, so why hold onto life the way we do. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: Most people i have known who have died had no quality of life anyway. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: There is no need to regret anything, most dead people would understand. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Pre-Teen How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System on the whole i couldnt get rid of the feeling that by mourning the death in the way every body else was, i was just trying to seek the attention of other people. Quite a selfish exurcise i think. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Other: Not knowing why every body made such a show of it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sun Oct 8 04:57:10 2000 F in Des Moines, Iowa =U.S.A.= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Mom - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of friend, 2 ago. Cause of Death: murder; Aged: 21. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: change --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... I was truck by lightning, at a young age. Not too young to remember the storm's powre. I died that night, but I am here now. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: the waste of potential, and the impression it surely branded in so many lives. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: the progresion in my own self, and acceptance I now know we all must obtain to be "right" in life and in death. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my own feelings, changing. It taught me so much about myself. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: the anger towards those "faulted", and the sense of abandonement and betrayal. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: acceptance. You can't change the scheme of things, just try to see whee we ALL fit in. We all fit in somewhere, make sure you hold alot of happiness, to take with you. --[My Lover's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: grew, even when I wasn't willing or capable of letting go. I am someone else because of my experience. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: it came so abruptly. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: I will not regret, or what if. To do so would be unfair to me and everyone in my life. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: show my love each day. There was no doubt in our minds of the love that surrounded us. We appreciated eachother, and loved eachother shamelessly, with no regrets... even now he's closer to me than anything, or anyone. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... I'd be me without some hole in my self. We still feel eachother, but physically touch.... I only get in sleep. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I wanted to be with him more than anything. But I will never be able to completly understand what happened that morning, noon, or evening, no matter how much I try {still to this day}. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: the utmost respect. They let him go with his dignity and soul. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: reassuring. --Regarding MONEY: of a pebble --The weirdest part of it all to me was: excusing a very large part of myself, to go on ahead and go. He had to go somewhere. --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : strength of self wit, and an all around wholeness. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sat Oct 7 02:00:26 2000 M19 in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 6yrs ago. Cause of Death: old age/heart attack; Aged: 86. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: just the next stage in life. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I don't remember --That first time, how it happened was I think she was my great great aunt, but I'm not sure. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: prople crying --What I think my () culture needs to better learn about death is: it's not such a big deal. People over-react to much. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: I didn't need support --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: sitting still for so long [at the funeral](hey, I was little) --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: people looked at me strange... --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the whole thing. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? My Belief System What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? -none- ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 6 23:00:14 2000 F19 in waterford, =ireland= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: administration - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Acquiantance, 5yrs ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 25. --Details: she was a manic depressive - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I went to see the body laid out but didn't really think much more about it --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was.. my grandfather died from leukemia. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: people saying what a shame it happened, then contradicting themselves saying it was for the best --What I think my (ireland) culture needs to better learn about death is: i think it has a very healthy attitude towards death, in that it's nothing to fear abd inevitable --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that it has put a lot of people out of pain --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: sharing stories about the person after they have gone --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: it brought it home that it happens to everyone and there is no escaping it --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i first heard about the death and how it happened --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it had to do with my upbringing which always stressed to see the funny side of things --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: really know what was going through the person's mind just before they died --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the type of funeral and coffin the person has --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i read a similar story --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... why take someone with so much going for them or who has young children that will be left --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could know what 's there when you die, or if there is anything there at all --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt intrigued wondering what happens after you die --Religious Affiliation: atheist --Regarding MONEY: a fancy coffin was wanted and there was bickering over who would the left money go to --The weirdest part of it all to me was: seeing someone so young laid out in the coffin - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Books & Films What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Crying and Crying ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 6 22:59:02 2000 F19 in waterford, =ireland= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Stumbled on it ] Prof/Studies: administration - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Acquiantance, 5yrs ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 25. --Details: she was a manic depressive - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of life --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I went to see the body laid out but didn't really think much more about it --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was.. my grandfather died from leukemia. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: people saying what a shame it happened, then contradicting themselves saying it was for the best --What I think my (ireland) culture needs to better learn about death is: i think it has a very healthy attitude towards death, in that it's nothing to fear abd inevitable --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: that it has put a lot of people out of pain --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: sharing stories about the person after they have gone --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: it brought it home that it happens to everyone and there is no escaping it --The most confusing point of death for me was when: i first heard about the death and how it happened --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: it had to do with my upbringing which always stressed to see the funny side of things --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: really know what was going through the person's mind just before they died --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the type of funeral and coffin the person has --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: i read a similar story --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... why take someone with so much going for them or who has young children that will be left --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could know what 's there when you die, or if there is anything there at all --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I felt intrigued wondering what happens after you die --Religious Affiliation: atheist --Regarding MONEY: a fancy coffin was wanted and there was bickering over who would the left money go to --The weirdest part of it all to me was: seeing someone so young laid out in the coffin - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Very Well What Helped me most deal with death? Books & Films What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Crying and Crying ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 6 17:58:50 2000 M25 in Barrie, Ontario =Canada= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: B.A. Religious Studies - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: I and Thou, Confessions, Myth of Sisyphus, The Plague, The Death of Ivan Illych Recommended Reading-- Writers: Martin Buber, St. Augustine, Albert Camus, Plato, Tolstoy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandFather, 2 years ago. Cause of Death: heart failure; Aged: 80. --Details: It was very sudden. He has won a golf tournament the week before. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: extinction of the "I" --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very young. It didn't bother me much then. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...I was in a car accident. My grandmother was killed. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: how he looked in the casket. He was simply a shell. --What I think my (Canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: to take it far more seriously. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: There are no gifts in death. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: my hope in something greater than myself. I don't want to call this thing God, but it might as well be. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Dealing with the people who say ridiculous things like..."It was for the best"...or..."I'm sure he's in a better place now." --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: to touch them. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: this never happened. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be there when he died. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there while he was in the hospital --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could be eternal. --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: nothing. --Religious Affiliation: My past affiliation is Presbyterian. I no longer attend church. --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: non-existent, though I wish I had felt it. --Regarding the FUNERAL: how it seemed so fake and so contrived. --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': nothing. --RE: Near Death Experiences: I wish. --Any thoughts about your own death?: Terror. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: I read some kind of theology or philosophy. Kierkegaard got me through my grandfathers death. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? How well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities I don't handle it very well What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Fear of Death ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 6 13:37:58 2000 F32 in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Recommended Reading-- Titles: "The Mourning After" Recommended Reading-- Writers: Helen Fitzgerald - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 10 months ago. Cause of Death: sudden massive heart attack; Aged: 52. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...My father was a minister and one of our church members died...That happened quite frequently - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Viewing the Body ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Fri Oct 6 12:04:53 2000 F36 in Charleston, SC =29407= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 18 ago. Cause of Death: illness; Aged: 71. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: an end to life on earth, but a beginning of eternal life with Christ --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was very sad. I could not believe I would never see her again and found it difficult to face as a teenager. --That first time, how it happened was My grandmother died when I was 18. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: that I tried to escape the grief process with alcohol and denial. --What I think my (29407) culture needs to better learn about death is: how to acknowledge it and not be afraid of it. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: it sealed in some wonderful memories of her and made me see her as a human being, imperfect, yet loved. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: That my family felt equally sad. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: knowing I could not see her again and the fear that I would forget her. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? A bit rough What Helped me most deal with death? Alcohol What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Alcohol Not having a funeral service to attend. No finality. Long distance and we did not get to go to a wake/funeral. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Thu Oct 5 23:49:59 2000 F34 in Bakersfield, Ca =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: selfemployed - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Father, 13 ago. Cause of Death: massive heart attack; Aged: 62. --Details: His death happened within 15 minutes. I had always knew he would die of a heart attack. Rarely had illnesses, slightly over weight a smoker for 25 years...had not smoked for the last 11 years of his life.He knew he would die quickly...he did right infront of me.Alot of guilt to deal with...all the should of could have would have. Was able to come to the comforting conclusion that it was a quick and dignified death. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: Part of our history and existance.From the earth back to the earth.In thinking that there is a possibility to return in some small form back to a plant,fish,animal or human. Or to stay dorment in the earth until consumed and passed on.I believe we are all one in the same...connected by our fragile planet. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I Passing over the miscarrage my mother had to the next death that came when I was 11. my grandmother. When she died I wept for the loss of her.She also was sure that Christ(as in Jesus) would come for us all before she died. Well stricken with cancer and dying within a month of being diagnosed she concluded that God wanted her there first to tidy things up. Her words had always been golden to me and her belief so strong it would pull you in.When she died that was my first taste of reality verses belief. I was confused and sadened that my life could be impacted so easily by the frailty of the human body.Prayers had not been answered and that was the first time I thought maybe there was no one to hear them. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...I was five and my mother miscarried early in her pregnacy. Never got to know my sibling so wasn't affected strongly but did feel a slight loss and what could have been. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: Most recent death was of my long time companion Hidee(a dog)but the best friend I ever had. She was with me for 19 years she was put to rest 2 years ago. Had been preparing for her death the day I got her as a pup.Obsessed about her safety. When she was ill I would will her better. It worked for many years. I grew tired of the worry and struggle and felt I owed her as my best pet companion to let her go. Those around me were supportive for they all knew how much I loved that dog.The whole dying experience with my dog was harder than with my father. May sound funny but it was.My dad left quickly and stubbornly the way he wanted. Hidee struggled to stay with me...until her lil 19 year old dog body couldnt anymore. Guilt set in alot...I chose to put her to sleep...guilt...I chose to keep her alive that long ...guilt. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: That we are all part of one massive entity.Death and loss will always be there. Killing anything is like killing yourself or another.We can each make ourselves and others happier by acceptance. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: That my father was home with his family when he died. he died quickly. My dog died with me petting her as she fell into a deep sleep then passed on. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Accepting that we all have to die no one gets a free pass...so make the best of every life and every death. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: The physical loss of that being.The adjustment of not having them there. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: Physical contact...energy exchange...touching my dad's head as he died holding his hand.Petting my dog. --[My Father's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: I have learned that I am weaker than I had thought and that I am stronger than I had thought.Not much help just the truth as known to me. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: I explained that earlier at age 11. Death is very real and easily graspable so the process of someone dying isn't confusing. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: laughter is a inch away from crying...both acceptable in any circumstance. --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: In my fathers case...mnake that stubborn man go to the doctor...perhaps he'd still be here perhaps not.Waisted time from those you love. --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: The falshes of insite of upcoming death of those who who i have lost or have yet to lose --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the whole ceremonial and cemetery experience. we do that for the comfort of us not the person deseased. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: Never over it how can you be.I just hate the thoughts of ok who is next and how do I prepare...wasteful thoughts but ever so strong. --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... thats done in my dreams...then I wake up --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... many times with my dad... --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could pass on before anyone else i love dies...then I relize how selfish that is --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I I always understood death but had a hard time accepting it...still do and will always.In my movie no one would die or suffer but I didnt make the movie I am just a part of it. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: Medical Community in my opinion did what they could...but aways room for improvement --Religious Affiliation: none --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: explained already --Regarding MONEY: People need to wisely prepare for --Regarding the FUNERAL: I was sad for us all --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: feel what you feel...dig down and make those last moments count --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': This subject is one that makes me smile with the most hope.I have had experiencs that make me believe that the soul...aura...chakra or whatever it is..perhaps just magnectic impulses or mass energy does travel and moves on to a different level of our world.Did I see that with my loved ones yes to an extent but unsure if it was just the body as a candle dimming then going out. --RE: Near Death Experiences: Many dreams of seeing myself dead even walking up to mkyself lying there and touching my arm. --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: LOVED ones in my dreams. Would love to think that I was making contact but my Jungarian mind will not let it be that simple. Had vision and strange manifestations but sadly never of a loved one even though I despertly would and have encouraged it. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: I believe that if a person wished to not suffer and wishes to end their suffering than that is their right and No one should have any say otherwise --Any thoughts about your own death?: I have always thought maybe even hoped that I would die early in life...before 40 Natural death is preferred death by another is horrific --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: Talking to the the deseased one occassionally. - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Well What Helped me most deal with death? Distractions The thoughts of death invade my mind quite a bit. I switch my mind to other thoughts on the lighter side. What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Upbringing Religious Upbringing...switching from a heavenly belief thought to a more scientific...we are from the earth and growth and,erosion are part of the All that is. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wed Oct 4 21:55:49 2000 F24 in las vegas, nevada =clark= Name: chrissy Email: <tina448=at=aol.com> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] Prof/Studies: admin. assistant - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of (Relation to You), yrs ago. Aged: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --That first time, how it happened was father battled cancer for 7 years and then became terminal - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Teen Ager How'd I do? Very Difficult What Helped me most deal with death? Avoiding Everything What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Friends' Insensitivities when my father died the people i went to school with & teachers acted as if i weren't there ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tue Oct 3 04:18:04 2000 Anonymous Guest in , == - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Yahoo search engine - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Cousin, 23yrs ago. Cause of Death: suicide; Aged: 19. --Details: The day is October 2nd in the evening 6.30 pm . She has been admitted in the hospital immeditely but of no use. Seen her in no motion has given me a very soul detachment and after postmartem of the body her face has been changed and mkaes me very gulity that nothing has been done from my side to save her. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: Huamn death means just nothing the body becomes senseless for ever and the respirtion will be stopped for ever and is of no use. If the body is not cremated withing 24 hours, a bad odour will comes out from the dead body which will be harmful to all the sourrounding people. So cremation is essential --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...While I was going to see my uncle in the railway yard in the morning 8.00 am and walking between the railway lines along and thinking something else, the shunting coaches from back side approaches my back side. All of sudden something awakened me and looked back side suddently and jumped out of the lines - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Adult How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Superstition ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 2 18:17:09 2000 F23 in mission, bc =canada= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Web Search: ] - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of GrandMother, 4yrs ago. Cause of Death: cancer; Aged: 72 . - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: the end of our current exisitence and the beginning of a new form of freedom --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was afraid and uncomfortable. I was unsure what to do or how to feel. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was...my cat had to be put down because she had cancer. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: getting told over the telephone --What I think my (canada) culture needs to better learn about death is: how to deal with it and how to interact with people who have just experienced a death in their family or life. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: seeing my grandmother's strength and spirit despite her physical death --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: family and beliefs --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: not knowing that my grandfather was sick...just finding out suddenly that he had died. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: smiling. --[My GrandMother's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: there is a great release and freedom in death. It is a new beginning, a form changer. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: going or knowing where the gravesite is. --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I was thankfull --Religious Affiliation: christianity --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: right - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Family's Sensitivities What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Silence & Taboos ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mon Oct 2 12:14:25 2000 M17 in Peoria, AZ =USA= - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Found us by: [ Teacher ] extra credit assignment for psyc 101, went to yahoo.com and then proceded... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Prof/Studies: Nursing major - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Most Significant Recent Death Exp was death of Friend, 6 months ago. Cause of Death: Lupus; Aged: around 40. --Details: A close friends mother died of lupus in her sleep, it was a very traumatic thing for everyone to go through - - - - - - - - - - - - - - T O P I C A L S - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - --Death Is: When a soul has decided that it is time to leave the body for whatever reason, a higher being wanting him to, or the body no longer sutible to be in, and that body then becomes lifeless and is buried. --The first time I ever experienced someone's death, I was so young, sad and confused. I didnt understand why she was gone and i really wanted her to come back. --That first time, how it happened was How it happened was... a school friend was walking to school one day and was killed by a hit and run driver. --The Most Vivid memory I have of this most recent death is: At the funeral when all my friends friends showed up to support the family. It was a very sad thing, at the funeral all her children got up and sung a song...it was very moving. --What I think my (USA) culture needs to better learn about death is: To celebrate that persons life and realize that they are in a better place now. --One gift for which I shall always be grateful is: getting intouch with my thoughts, emotions and beliefs on death and how i vew it. --What was of most support to me in my experience with death was: Keeping my self really busy with extra curricular activities at school, so that i couldnt dwell on the topic. --And the most difficult for me in my experience with death was: Seing her son in so much pain and how much that this one person effected so many lives. --Regarding just Being There for someone dying, my advice would be: NA --[My Friend's] death taught me so much. I'd have others know how I: think that we will be able to see our loved one again and i know that that will be a great moment reuniting with them. --The most confusing point of death for me was when: the person is just about to die, like the moments before. --Regarding Humor in the death process, I'd just say that: NA --Not that it's a regret, but I would like to have better had time to: be closer to that person --But some things worked out so well... I'm SO GLAD I was able to: be there to support my friend when he needed someone. --One seemingly minor thing (yet important) which impressed me was when: the different ways that her kids coped with the ordeal. --And exactly backwards: what we didn't make a big deal of, was: the people recalling their moments with her to others. --I can get all teary-eyed just thinking about it all again when: na --In another dimension of Life where this all had never happened... i dont know, i guess it would still be very similar to how things are now. --Sometimes I think: It's just not fair... why did they have to go now? --It's sometimes so very difficult. I just wish I could forget it ever happened --When it really hit me... when I realized & acknowledged the death, I got very sad, quiet and reminiscent of being around her. --Regarding MEDICINE, DOCTORS, etc: mixed emotions, thinking in the now, and then thinking eternally. --Regarding HOSPICE etc: na --Regarding CHURCHES, RELIGION, etc: that we would see them in the after life again --Religious Affiliation: Latter Day Saints (LDS, Mormon) --Regarding ONENESS of SPIRIT, etc: that death is a temporary thing --Regarding MONEY: how nice the funeral was. --Regarding the FUNERAL: there was a lot of people in attendance. --The weirdest part of it all to me was: the first hearing of it --SOME OF THE COMMON SIGNS OF DEATH : the person accepting the fact theyre dieing. --SOME OF THE COMMON STAGES OF GRIEF: it is a quick process because i keep so busy that i dont think about it much --RE: Visions from the 'Other Side': for this particular death i have no idea --RE: Near Death Experiences: my mother had 2 near death experiences where she saw her grandmother and she told her that it wasnt her time and sent her back to us. --How might you deal with yet unresolved issues from a death?: na --If we were to visit one last conversation... nope --RE: After-death visits from our loved ones: bright warm white light with my great grandmother there looking very well and happy. --Regarding Rights & Wishes of the Dying: you should do whatever the dying person wants done, its their death and thats that. --Any thoughts about your own death?: i know that i will someday, but i a m not really looking forward to it, if you know what i mean. --Any Coping Ritual or Event you invented / devised to help you cope: just keeping my mind away from it. --Any Coping Rituals or Events which have carried over into your life? not really --Any New Friends emerge in the shared grieving process of Death? well, i have gotten closer to my friend after his mother died - - - - - P e r s o n a l H i s t o r y - - - - - 1st Death event occurred in my life at: Young Child How'd I do? Adequate What Helped me most deal with death? Keeping Busy What Hindered me most in my dealing with death? Memories - - - Comments on this Questionnaire & collection GuestBook - - - not really, it made me think about what i thought of that experience but i didnt really do anything great for me. - - - Any other questions you feel we should have asked here? well, so of them are hard to understand because you kind of start the sentance for us, and its alittle werid and hard to get. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ See Sep 00 contributions. See Aug 00 contributions. See Current contributions. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^